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Old 08-20-2014, 10:19 AM   #1
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Exhaust upgrade

ok guys need your help. I'm looking to upgrade my exhaust and I'm stuck on which system to go with. I have three in mind. 1) go with the NPP exhaust 2) go with borla ATAK cat back or 3) SW sideburner exhaust. I like the sound of the NPP and the Borla but I also like the idea of the sideburner. The only thing about the sideburner is that it is not its own exhaust system it adds on to your existing system. Let me know what you guys think.
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:22 AM   #2
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Skip the cat back and get LT's and high flows.
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:40 AM   #3
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I guess it depends on your future goals. If you AT ALL plan on getting LT headers, then skip the cat back for now, as stated above.

The NPP is not really that attractive of an option if not installed with factory functionality, so at this point I would skip that option too. As far as Borla goes, I dont think their systems are worth the money as there are better sounding systems that do a FAR better job of cutting down drone than Borla does.

If you have your heart set on a cat-back then the only one I will suggest is the SW Retro Chambered Cat Back. Good luck!
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:46 AM   #4
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IMO - NPP is fine without factory controller on a Camaro. I have done it before and would again. A lot of owners pull the fuse on the controller anyway.
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:16 AM   #5
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If you are going to spend money on an exhaust system, I would make sure that it would lead to a significant improvement in performance, not one that just sounded better or is just louder than stock (even if it meant a tune). If there was not a significant performance gain, I might hold onto my money....just my $.02.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:51 PM   #6
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If you're going for sound, stainless works retro chambered is amazing. If you're looking for performance, get LT's and high flow cats. If you're looking for both, do all of the above with time management and priority in mind.
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:01 PM   #7
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I would recommend the Borla system

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:17 AM   #8
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With fuse out, NPP is essentially a straight pipe.

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:41 PM   #9
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I've been super happy with the Borla S-Type for a few reasons. Sound is good without much high RPM drone, it's much lighter than the stock system, and the HP gain is pretty good.

On the down side, the tips poke out a bit further than I'd like and because of the way the rear bumper is shaped, it creates an optical illusion that the tips are pointing down, but they're not.

Plus, you can get the s-type on amazon for a very reasonable rate
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:57 PM   #10
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I've been super happy with the Borla S-Type for a few reasons. Sound is good without much high RPM drone, it's much lighter than the stock system, and the HP gain is pretty good.

On the down side, the tips poke out a bit further than I'd like and because of the way the rear bumper is shaped, it creates an optical illusion that the tips are pointing down, but they're not.

Plus, you can get the s-type on amazon for a very reasonable rate
What HP gain did you see, and did it require a tune?
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:20 PM   #11
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I came from the Mustang world and had multiple exhausts on multiple ponies.

None sounded or looked better than the NPP does on these cars with the fuse pulled, IMO. I can't imagine paying for anything different.

The dual tips look great, the exhaust has zero drone, it has a low bass rumble with no rasp, and it is the perfect volume at all RPMs (gets attention while not being too loud).

Since it is best with the fuse pulled anyway, you don't have to worry about whether it came factory. And, I couldn't care less about the weight.

And anyone who claims HP gain with just a catback is full of the proverbial feces.

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Old 08-21-2014, 01:31 PM   #12
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I came from the Mustang world and had multiple exhausts on multiple ponies.

None sounded or looked better than the NPP does on these cars with the fuse pulled, IMO. I can't imagine paying for anything different.

The dual tips look great, the exhaust has zero drone, it has a low bass rumble with no rasp, and it is the perfect volume at all RPMs (gets attention while not being too loud).

Since it is best with the fuse pulled anyway, you don't have to worry about whether it came factory. And, I couldn't care less about the weight.

And anyone who claims HP gain with just a catback is full of the proverbial feces.

Just my $.02

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I came from the Mustang world and had multiple exhausts on multiple ponies.

None sounded or looked better than the NPP does on these cars with the fuse pulled, IMO. I can't imagine paying for anything different.

The dual tips look great, the exhaust has zero drone, it has a low bass rumble with no rasp, and it is the perfect volume at all RPMs (gets attention while not being too loud).

Since it is best with the fuse pulled anyway, you don't have to worry about whether it came factory. And, I couldn't care less about the weight.

And anyone who claims HP gain with just a catback is full of the proverbial feces.

Just my $.02
We wanted a quieter car, so no NPP for us, but amen to your last line.....whole lots of feces going on!
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:55 PM   #14
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What kind of sound are you looking for? As others have said, set of headers will really wake up the stock exhaust, so that may be the ticket where you can get the sound you are looking for AND performance. If you will not be doing headers for a while, keep in mind when choosing your exhaust system that the sound will increase by a lot when headers are introduced, and some regret their exhaust decision.

That being said, I am a BIG fan of the Stainless works Retro Chambered cat-back.

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Old 08-21-2014, 02:17 PM   #15
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What HP gain did you see, and did it require a tune?
Not much, like 5 brake without a tune. But more importantly, the whole car drives better.

I will also agree that the NPP is the best option, BUT...

Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you have to replace the back moulding as the dual tips won't fit.
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Speaking of which... I need to get a tune. :P
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:44 PM   #17
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Not much, like 5 brake without a tune. But more importantly, the whole car drives better.

I will also agree that the NPP is the best option, BUT...

Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you have to replace the back moulding as the dual tips won't fit.
You are not mistaken sir.

This is a very cheap item, and extremely easy to perform.
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You are not mistaken sir.

This is a very cheap item, and extremely easy to perform.
Would you do it yourself or have a body shop do it?
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:23 PM   #19
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Would you do it yourself or have a body shop do it?
Do it yourself for sure!

I installed the ZL1 diffuser on my 2013, and that required some cutting of the rear bumper.

I am not sure on a 2014, but going from single tip diffuser to NPP diffuser should not require anything more than removing some screws and popping out some clips, as least that is all that is required on 2013 models.
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IMO - NPP is fine without factory controller on a Camaro. I have done it before and would again. A lot of owners pull the fuse on the controller anyway.
Is there any HP difference between the stock exhaust I have and the NPP?
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:04 PM   #22
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Is there any HP difference between the stock exhaust I have and the NPP?
I think it depends on which "stock" you have.
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:31 PM   #23
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Is there any HP difference between the stock exhaust I have and the NPP?
I only did the axle back conversion and only saw a few more hp at the highest rpms. I did a dyno comparison and posted a thread about it.
For power go with LT and HF or no cats and a tune. If warranty is a concern then you probably should stick to axle back options, and add LTs.

Added NPP thread:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316448

and just for fun:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=camaro5+npp+dyno
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