03-22-2015, 04:38 PM | #85 |
Too much is never enough!
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The DR's are coming next month for the 20's, then a set of 17's for the rear for the track. I did a lot of research about hp tolerances for the LS3 and I don't get the impression that there is a large group of people hiding their failed motors from the rest of us to keep the illusion that 800whp is safe on a stock bottom end. Truth is I've found failures at all power levels for a variety of different reasons. At my power level I feel comfortable, next is a BAP my FP is dipping a little low for my comfort zone. Once the BAP is installed I'll turn up the boost and get the car a little closer to the edge of what I personally am comfortable with.
The build cost more than I feel comfortable stating in a public forum, if you really want to know what it all cost pm me and I'll get u close. As for FSP there a top quality shop that frankly has a lot of work, so much that I am still trying to finish some of my business with Matt. He barely has time to respond to text messages or emails and you can forget about calling the shop. That's been my experience anyway. If I had it to do all over again I think I would have found someone who is a little more available. I am not bashing anybody but for the amount of money I spent our business should be resolved and communication should be a given. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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03-22-2015, 04:53 PM | #86 | |
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And I agree that it comes down to what you are comfortable with. Back a couple years ago I was looking for 700 to the wheels. But lately I decided that 550-600 is good enough for me. I wish I had that aggressive thinking again, I miss thinking like that. But after seeing a friend of mine trash his engine I got paranoid, lol!! I can kind of guess what it may have costed based on the list. And yea it gets frustrating when a shop has no time for you. Its kinda like you're old news. Like they got their money outta ya and had fun with ya and now they're on to the next one. But I've seen all shops do that. Even if you went elsewhere you'd have the same problem. They have grade A customer service when they're trying to get your business. It diminishes when you get the car to them. It diminishes even more when they're working on it. Once you're out the door, you'd have an easier time getting the President to come to a dive bar with you, lol!! |
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03-22-2015, 06:39 PM | #87 |
Too much is never enough!
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The snow just melted, and unless I have read the track schedule wrong, I can't go till the 1st of May. Which is about the time ill have some decent tires.
Another BIG thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread, your input has really made a big difference. I have absolutely no regrets that I went TT's. Thank you to AGP, for answering all of my silly questions before the sale and after, But I do have a bone to pick with them.....I never got any AGP stickers for my car. ....I am having a blast. Now that the snow has melted I just look for excuses to take it for a spin. Not that I need one.
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03-22-2015, 09:45 PM | #88 | |
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03-22-2015, 09:51 PM | #89 |
Too much is never enough!
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Right!
On a serious note, I'll take some AGP window decals, if your willing to part with them. I have never been one to put stuff like that on my car, but it only seems appropriate that I show my enthusiasm for their product. I did manage to snag a "TT" emblem from FSP, I put it just under the white SS on the rear of the car. Most people don't really figure it out until they hear that PSSST sound from the turbos, as I walk away from them at 1/4 throttle
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He does. I know.
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03-23-2015, 02:13 PM | #93 | |
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As for the after the sale/install support that BlaqWhole was referring to, I never got the impression that "hey your out the door see ya" nor was treated that way. Matt has helped me on more than a few occasions. while on off days and at odd hours, where most just turn off there phone. The only thing I felt I stated. I have been in the past and today treated like a true valued costomer. If anybody chooses to read my build thread you'll see that I have always spoken highly of FSP. Thanks again Matt and crew.
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Matt helps me all the time and I don't even buy stuff from him
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Agreed with all of the above. Having the right shop to work with you is more important than FI style or which kit you choose. The shop can help you make informed decisions and a good shop will stand behind the their work and help even after the install.
If you are really experienced with FI builds then the decision can be kit first, but if you are not it should be shop first. Then later you might be able to make informed decisions on your own.
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03-23-2015, 04:46 PM | #97 |
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