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Old 08-24-2009, 12:05 PM   #76
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Heres a link to my 0-60 after an hour of unplugged fuses. BTW I can't find stopwatch so can someone time it with one and let me know what you came up with?
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Randy how do you post where the picture comes up instead of using a link?
i time it at 5.63 look good
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:00 PM   #77
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I will say this. I started to get the feeling that a lot of people were doubting me on here. It really sucked. I don't believe there is any denying at this point that there has been a problem. If there is anyone who still doubts, I'd like to know why.

I have my doubts.... as to whether you could beat Bonnie or not. Tell her either she races you or she has to "model" on your car for us.



Junkie and Spike, I know I left myself open for a good joke here.
good joke..... ummmm.... good joke...... meh. congrats buddy. barking the 21s!!!

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We figure out pulling the battery is not resetting the ECM. It has a battery backup unit for it. So it runs off that battery when you disconnect the car battery. The fuse pull cuts that power.


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So for us mechanically challenged, where are these fuses that I can pull? I don't want to jack up my car but I want to see if this helps.
in front of the passenger strut tower in the engine bay, there is the fuse box, pull the cover and you'll see the fuses. check pages 9-42 thru 9-44 for the location of the two fuses to pull
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:21 PM   #78
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Guys, I showed ya`ll this in another thread, and commented in another. Mine picked up 8rwhp on the dyno w/ pulling those 2 fuses for 5 minutes. Of course it wasn`t really low at 319rwhp, just baseline average. The only bad thing is I don`t think the increase will be permanent once the LTFT`s have time to record. I can`t go back to the dyno to verify this as I have headers on so no way to know if its pulling power again or not as numbers will be higher.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36837

Stock L99 Dynograph w/ some interesting info

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I just dynoed mine to get a baseline (600 miles) and it put down 319rwhp twice then we pulled the pcm fuses for it to forget the LTFT (Long Term Fuel Trims), engine had more heatsoak than the first two pulls and it put down 327rwhp...Let me tell you picking up 8rwhp by doing that, this computer has a serious nanny program. The trans tune alone is going to be awesome. It really woke up my A6 Vette. I put ARH headers on it the day after and as soon as the Vararam is ready that will go on and I will get it tuned. So have faith o L99 bretheren...The curious thing I`ve noted is how there is a slight sip in the graph after 5250rpm`s then it picks back up, I`m assuming this may be when the VVT kicks out and is no longer making that extra midrange power. Any tuners can explain that? I`ve seen it on other L99 graphs, but not on the LS3 graphs...
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Someone post in a in a thread to pull those fuses. Randy and I just never did it. Randy did it and now you can even hear his car spinning those 21" wheels in heat which he could not do before.

And you do not want to even ask what #230 is doing to day with the over night fuse pull.
GMRULZ is where Scott saw it in the thread that he references here.

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Man I soooo happy your you got your car right. Now I dont have to feel bad about your getting beat by a girl. OOOOppps did I say it again.

Sorry pq I had to do it. Glad your running strong now.


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So for us mechanically challenged, where are these fuses that I can pull? I don't want to jack up my car but I want to see if this helps.
Open up the fuse box. Engine compartment to the front left as your looking at the motor. You'll see the fuses are all numbered.

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Thanks for sharing. Congrats' for this working on your car too. That's a great feeling for finally have some resolution and feeling like the car is driving like it's supposed to.


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Ok...someone should make a new sticky thread with all the "Do this at your own risk" planted all over it. Then have a step by step with pics on which one and where to pull the fuses. Maybe have video of the before and after if possible. On the step by step you have to be basic and don't assume the end user knows anything about anything car related.

Just my .02 cents.....
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good joke..... ummmm.... good joke...... meh. congrats buddy. barking the 21s!!!
....in front of the passenger strut tower in the engine bay, there is the fuse box, pull the cover and you'll see the fuses. check pages 9-42 thru 9-44 for the location of the two fuses to pull


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I'm still speaking to a person at GM that is now helping me and looking further into this problem, BEFORE the fuse pull I did. This person has some 'pull' at GM and is being very responsive in helping.

He has asked me not to expierement further with my car as to not possibly creating any other issues. I will respect his request. (of course it's easy when you're rollin like I am) He wants to have my dealer do some tests to see what happened. It only makes sense.

So anyway, not sure if a stickey would be the right thing. It's well documented on the site and should be easy to search for someone who has problems. This way Camaro5 isn't 'pushing' the fuse pull, but providing it if someone wants to find it.
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I'm still speaking to a person at GM that is now helping me and looking further into this problem, BEFORE the fuse pull I did. This person has some 'pull' at GM and is being very responsive in helping.

He has asked me not to expierement further with my car as to not possibly creating any other issues. I will respect his request. (of course it's easy when you're rollin like I am) He wants to have my dealer do some tests to see what happened. It only makes sense.

So anyway, not sure if a stickey would be the right thing. It's well documented on the site and should be easy to search for someone who has problems. This way Camaro5 isn't 'pushing' the fuse pull, but providing it if someone wants to find it.
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:08 PM   #81
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GMRULZ is where Scott saw it in the thread that he references here.

Thanks GMRULZ.

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Your welcome man, I`m glad you and Scott got some of that lost power back. It would be very interesting to keep tabs and see if the computer starts pulling the power back out as LTFT`s are recorded. I`ve blown my baseline out by adding the headers. If it does continue to pull power as it records LTFT`s, you can install a device called a Dash Hawk that has a function to clear LTFT`s w/ a touch of a button if memory serves me right. Plus you can monitor a crapload of stuff , check codes ect...

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Your welcome man, I`m glad you and Scott got some of that lost power back. It would be very interesting to keep tabs and see if the computer starts pulling the power back out as LTFT`s are recorded. I`ve blown my baseline out by adding the headers. If it does continue to pull power as it records LTFT`s, you can install a device called a Dash Hawk that has a function to clear LTFT`s w/ a touch of a button if memory serves me right. Plus you can monitor a crapload of stuff , check codes ect...

http://www.dashhawk.com/


I didn't know you could do that.

Of course, I wouldn't know what to do with the info.
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I didn't know you could do that.

Of course, I wouldn't know what to do with the info.


It also just plugs into the diag port under the dash, no fancy wiring skills required...
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Ok, Scott called me this morning and threatened me telling me to remove the #5 and #20 fuses to reset the computer. He claims I never take his advice so I decide to humor him and go through the motions in this meaningless and fruitless exercise that will be a waste of my time.









I did 5 quarter mile runs, the slowest being 13.86 and the fastest being 13.42

0-60 mph slowest was 5.66 and the fastest 5.19

Now I didn'te do the video but used my iPhone and at least one thing is accurate is that it has been consistant against it's self. Over the past 100+ runs I was getting a constant of between 6.1 and 6.2 in the 0-60 mph times and 14.5 and 14.8 in the quarter mile.

My tires were hard to keep from spinning and I have a new problem. That new problem is how to get a good launvh without spinning the tires.

The only oddity is that nothing seems to be reset on the instument panel. Oil life, windows, etc.

So, I want you 'slow' guys to remove the #5 and #20 fuses to reset whatever it is that it resets. I'm not telling you to do this but do it at your own risk. Not that it's dangerous as far as damage but because I don't know, I'm not an expert.

Soooooooo there you have it. I'm going back out later to do some more. I thought that maybe my phone was malfunctioning but the wheel spin was a dead giveaway.

I hope it stays this way. Let us know what you guys find if you do this.


OK, UPDATED WITH VIDS.
The first one is one of the better ones I did a while back.
The second two were today.




iPhone showed 5.24 0-60 mph, and 13.37 quarter mile.



iPhone showed 5.41 0-60 mph and 13.56 quarter mile.
this is the fuse box under the hood correct .im not sure if there is 2 thanks
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Nice to see the car running like it should. My car takes hours to reach that speed you did by the end lol
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this is the fuse box under the hood correct .im not sure if there is 2 thanks
Correct.
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To prove that your car works you should film yourself doing some smokey ass donuts.
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Congrats Randy and Scott. Is there really any risk to pulling these fuses? Not really sure if I have a fast A6, never really timed it.
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So where do I find the fuses???
From what I can tell, the fuse panel is on the passenger's side strut tower, on the front. Pull the panel cover, and there you go.
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To prove that your car works you should film yourself doing some smokey ass donuts.
You guys hear; eeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttssscccreeeeeettttchhhhh

I hear; chaching, chaching, chaching
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The permagrin was from the car, right? or did the Mrs. buy you some Crown Royal?
I'm a gin and tonic guy.

But now that the car is right, I'm a guy with nothing to keep permagrin off my face. lol

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Congrats Randy and Scott. Is there really any risk to pulling these fuses? Not really sure if I have a fast A6, never really timed it.
As far as risk, I don't know. But I had to try it.

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From what I can tell, the fuse panel is on the passenger's side strut tower, on the front. Pull the panel cover, and there you go.
Yup. That's it.

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She said she's retiring on top.
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Don't worry, Bonnie will come out of retirement for a great comeback match... they always do... you just gotta build up the hype for it first haha
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