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Old 08-17-2009, 04:19 PM   #26
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I was beat lastnite by a new Mustang GT. This guy was a cocky prick. I went to pick up my daughter and her freind from the movies and on the way this guy kept 'playing' with me. Begging me to race. I thought I knew better than to race as slow as my car is but got pissed at the last light. Those two guys were laughing there asses off. (that's right, 2 guys in his car) The last light was actually an entrace to a highway and wide open so when the light turned green I punched it. Got a little better jump than them but .

I only went to about 70 mph. Speed limit is 65, and would have went even farther but what was the point. They were WELL out in front. This car is freaking slow and I'm disgusted. Maybe it gets fixed and gets fast but in the mean time the first 3 months with my car have been a disapointment. And this incident really stung.

It goes in the shop Tuesday for the TAC stuff and to fix the Tachometer. I don't want it back until it's fixed. I wish there were a way to have ALL of you guys drive this Fing thing. You'de see what I'm talking about.

Tired of the jokes. Tired of the tests. Tired of the questions. Tired of explaining the issue. Tired of people doubting it. Just about tired of the car.
Had a guy in an SRT8 jeep playing with me yesterday. I knew better and didn't play back because I was afraid he would take me. I aint playin until my car is like Scott's and repeka's new one. I am not going to be the guy with the slow RJT SS. I would rather just be known ass the guy who won't race. GM give us what you gave Scott so we are not embarrased to be driving these wonderful Camaros.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:03 PM   #27
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I can completely relate to your situation. My car (2SS/RS A6) dynoed at 297 hp on its best run the other day. I just got through doing some 0-60 runs with the car and here are the results

Traction control off
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6.94
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Traction control on (thought I would see if it made any difference)
6.52
6.72
6.81

That pretty much sums it up.
I have an appointment with my dealer tomorrow to get them to look at the car.


Wow, I thought Scott's car was the only one running that slow. You definately need some of that magically GM high octane gas they gave Scott.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:16 PM   #28
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I have a 2ss/rs m6. I know that the people who talk the most are pretty much immature blowjobs and kill the drag/racing world. no need for d-bags here.

Doesnt the A6 paddle shift have paddle shift? And dont let it get to you .... maybe thats why shes all up in you or maybe she likes you.... then have your girl kill her with her IS but on a track
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:47 PM   #29
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Wow, I thought Scott's car was the only one running that slow. You definately need some of that magically GM high octane gas they gave Scott.
I would love some of that magical juice for my baby. Went to the dealer and now have an open case with them #10991734 hope to hear back tomorrow from the district rep.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:42 PM   #30
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I have a 2ss/rs m6. I know that the people who talk the most are pretty much immature blowjobs and kill the drag/racing world. no need for d-bags here.

Doesnt the A6 paddle shift have paddle shift? And dont let it get to you .... maybe thats why shes all up in you or maybe she likes you.... then have your girl kill her with her IS but on a track
May be a good idea. But that GT that jumped allover me the other night has me even more pissed.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:53 PM   #31
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Well as frustrating as this must be for you guys, The good news is GM is working it.

It's frustrating I know but hang in there. They've obviously been caught off guard on this one.

Hang in there.

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So I think I've seen 2 L99s visited by GM reps. What exactly did the GM folks say the problem was and what was does to solve the problem(s)? Was everything related to gas only???
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:11 PM   #33
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Well as frustrating as this must be for you guys, The good news is GM is working it.

It's frustrating I know but hang in there. They've obviously been caught off guard on this one.

Hang in there.

Dealer has my car. Meaningless. He put down "Customer claims that the Horse Power of vehicle is insufficient".

I told him that wasn't exactly what I wanted on the sheet but that the car is simply not getting the acceleration it should. He said that they don't deal in 'times' but HP and performance. Whatever that means. That's fine, as long as I do as I'm told with the car.

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So I think I've seen 2 L99s visited by GM reps. What exactly did the GM folks say the problem was and what was does to solve the problem(s)? Was everything related to gas only???
so far as we know.

I know about Scotts. Who is the other one?
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:32 PM   #34
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Dealer has my car. Meaningless. He put down "Customer claims that the Horse Power of vehicle is insufficient".

I told him that wasn't exactly what I wanted on the sheet but that the car is simply not getting the acceleration it should. He said that they don't deal in 'times' but HP and performance. Whatever that means. That's fine, as long as I do as I'm told with the car.

so far as we know.

I know about Scotts. Who is the other one?
Again, Dealers FTF....

You'd think they'd at least try and educate themselves on the issue???

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Old 08-18-2009, 12:36 PM   #35
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Thanks to your threads about the A6 problem, I made sure my dealer put 93 octane in the car.
One of the first things I tested was the 0-60 times (yea, I know no vid. or pic's sorry) with only about 10 miles on the car. It was right at between the 5 - 5.5 sec. times.
I also told the dealer about the problems that other people have been having and they are making sure that the 93 octane get's in all future camaros (they have 11 more coming in next month).

Now, not to thread jack or anything, but I get my car back on Thursday and am looking forward to the times with the below mod's:

New Era OTR Intake
ARH LT & 3" exhaust
SLP PowerFlo mufflers and tips (making full 3" exhaust)
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:59 PM   #36
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I do a lot of reading and not much posting, however on this issue I feel compelled to add my 2 cents.

1) My L99 couldn't pull away from a VW bug
2) My L99 can't smoke the tires -( yes I know all about how to turn off the traction control etc.......)
3) I only have 91 octane available in this area, and yes I only run 91 and I put in the 91 GAS for the initial fill from the dealer myself.
4) There are several issues that GM needs to correct, telling you 93 octane gas fixed the problem is BS.
5) I Don't buy the line, 93 octane is the fix, they uploaded a new ECM program and tune for your car and fixed your problem. What about the rest of us??????????
5) We all need the new ECM tune and update you received or even a better one so the car can deliver and perform according to the stated factory specs or better.
6) The dealers need to be notified of this problem so they can speak intelligently to their loyal GM customers and fix the problem ASAP..........................

This fix is taking way too long and they will loose market share to Ford when they try to convert Pony drivers to Camaro drivers especially when the future customers know there is a problem with the L99s. They read this Forum also..........
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Thanks to your threads about the A6 problem, I made sure my dealer put 93 octane in the car.
One of the first things I tested was the 0-60 times (yea, I know no vid. or pic's sorry) with only about 10 miles on the car. It was right at between the 5 - 5.5 sec. times.
I also told the dealer about the problems that other people have been having and they are making sure that the 93 octane get's in all future camaros (they have 11 more coming in next month).

Now, not to thread jack or anything, but I get my car back on Thursday and am looking forward to the times with the below mod's:

New Era OTR Intake
ARH LT & 3" exhaust
SLP PowerFlo mufflers and tips (making full 3" exhaust)
All installed by my dealer

I will post up a video when I get it back.
Cool. Start a thread when you get it back.

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Again, Dealers FTF....

You'd think they'd at least try and educate themselves on the issue???

I tried to let him know what was going on but they just look at me like I'm rambling. Not their fault, just don't have any info from the top. I guess if I was them, I'd be doing the same thing. They are going to 'test' my car and call me and tell me I can pick it up and it is running fine. Again, not flaming the dealer. What else can they do?

Sure the car 'feels' strong, but it's being held back.

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6) The dealers need to be notified of this problem so they can speak intelligently to their loyal GM customers and fix the problem ASAP..........................

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Old 08-25-2009, 04:11 PM   #38
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I'm seeing the same RPMs on all of them.
It did seem like in the first few videos, especially from second to third between 55MPH and 60MPH you can clearly see the hesitation in the speedometer. Very bizarre. The last video probably has times in the low 6.0's, which is markedly better than what Scott was putting up earlier. I really hope you can enjoy the car now. Sucks it happened in the first place. I'll also add that changing the octane of gas seems like a very unlikely fix, although the computer hard reset (ECM) may have helped. If you know it won't void your warranty, pull the fuses and check it out to confirm. Better than sitting idly by and complaining about it. GM isn't going to contact you over time, so don't sit on this.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:35 PM   #39
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The last run in this thread was like 5.4 in 90 degree temps and humid. If we had the 1 foot rollout it would be like 4.9-5.2 The 1 foot rollout is the same you get at the track and when they do 0-60 testing in the mags for wheel spin.
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WTH good is one foot follout? Why not just make it a solid time?

I can bench jpress 1000 Lbs. (with 700 lbs. of non-weight.)
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:44 PM   #41
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it definetely looks like they adjusted some parameters in the programming. Don't know if they did anything in the fuel and spark tables, but they def did something with the shiftpoints. The car shifts a lot harder than it did
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:57 PM   #42
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I have a 2ss/rs m6. I know that the people who talk the most are pretty much immature blowjobs and kill the drag/racing world. no need for d-bags here.

Doesnt the A6 paddle shift have paddle shift? And dont let it get to you .... maybe thats why shes all up in you or maybe she likes you.... then have your girl kill her with her IS but on a track


That IS is a 6 spd...
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Almost 7 secs to 60?? My '02 A4 does noticeably better than that... Hope they can get that worked out
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The last run in this thread was like 5.4 in 90 degree temps and humid. If we had the 1 foot rollout it would be like 4.9-5.2 The 1 foot rollout is the same you get at the track and when they do 0-60 testing in the mags for wheel spin.
Glad I was wrong. I was counting "Mississippi's" so that may have added extra time. Sorry Scott.
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Hey guys. Got 0-60 dynolicious 5.06 95 degrees Georgia heat. Added hennesey cold air. Adding headers & high flow cats & tune on monday 8-31-09. Also gets a dyno. Will let my state neighbors know the results. stay tuned. & how about that car ride you promised. Igot a car show coming up in Albany Ga. Lets get together. Power to the max.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:18 PM   #46
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Thanks to your threads about the A6 problem, I made sure my dealer put 93 octane in the car.
One of the first things I tested was the 0-60 times (yea, I know no vid. or pic's sorry) with only about 10 miles on the car. It was right at between the 5 - 5.5 sec. times.
I also told the dealer about the problems that other people have been having and they are making sure that the 93 octane get's in all future camaros (they have 11 more coming in next month).

Now, not to thread jack or anything, but I get my car back on Thursday and am looking forward to the times with the below mod's:

New Era OTR Intake
ARH LT & 3" exhaust
SLP PowerFlo mufflers and tips (making full 3" exhaust)
All installed by my dealer

I will post up a video when I get it back.
I hate to know what a dealer is going to charge to install that! I only charge $250 for header installation. What are they charging you, about $500?

Have any of you guys tried disconnecting the battery overnight?

One last thing that I thought of, is that they are probably adjusting the Torque Management part of the computer tuning. Torque Management is what is responsible for the sluggishness off of the line and between gears. It essentially pulls timing and slightly closes the throttle to pull back some power to stop from breaking driveline parts as easy.
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I wonder if this problem has something to do with the Active Fuel Management (AFM) that drops cylinders in order to save a couple miles per gallon on the gas mileage. Is it possible that for some people, that AFM is a few hundred milliseconds slow reacting to the WOT sensor or whatever else disables it to allow the engine to operate at peak performance?
Is there an easy way to temporarily disable AFM, without hurting anything, so that it would not even try to drop cylinders at all?

Just a thought....
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Is the problem on all L99's or some ???????
cause u guys scared the hell out of me
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Is the problem on all L99's or some ???????
cause u guys scared the hell out of me
It depends on whether or not you car has had low octane fuel in it.

If it hasn't then you should be good to go. If it has then you should do the reset...

Heck I'd reset it anyway.
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My L99 seems to run fine.

I had a long on-ramp getting on the freeway, so I tested it. Spun up to 5800-6000 before shifting to second with tranction control on. Had to get out of it to merge onto freeway. Seemed ok, but I may not know the difference.

If GM does come up with a fix, you can bet I will do it anyway. Got a need for speed.....safely.
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