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Old 07-12-2008, 07:26 PM   #18
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Yikes! For the cost of gas from WI to CA, you could get a professional to fill the holes. For a fraction of that cost, you could bribe a dirty dealer to zip-tie the bracket instead of screwing it. For free, you might convince a decent dealer that you're going to install it yourself and that they shouldn't put holes in the bumper...
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I may be totally missing something here. Why are they allocating a certain number of cars per dealer? Why don't they take orders from all who order? It has just been said that the magic number is 800,000 units per year to keep the car onthe table, then they limit sales. Dosen't make sense to me. If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:03 PM   #20
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If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
I'm pretty sure GM allocates based on those points you mentioned above; who can sell more of the cars as opposed to another. They learned from the GTO sales how to do it wrong...so I'm confident they'll get it right this time as far as who could sell the most.

I think I remember reading (not sure) CamaroScotty saying that after the first couple rounds of allotments, it'll turn into a free-for-all.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:25 PM   #21
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Yikes! For the cost of gas from WI to CA, you could get a professional to fill the holes. For a fraction of that cost, you could bribe a dirty dealer to zip-tie the bracket instead of screwing it. For free, you might convince a decent dealer that you're going to install it yourself and that they shouldn't put holes in the bumper...
but the drive would be priceless! plus who wants uneccessary BONDO on their new Camaro?!?
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:32 PM   #22
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I may be totally missing something here. Why are they allocating a certain number of cars per dealer? Why don't they take orders from all who order? It has just been said that the magic number is 800,000 units per year to keep the car onthe table, then they limit sales. Dosen't make sense to me. If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
800k? thats waaayyy to high. Camaro sales are estimated at ~100k.
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no way im not puttin holes in my camaro!
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Question Scotty: Does Wisconsin mandate front license plates? I plan on buying and picking up my car from a state that doesn't and driving it home so I don't have holes in my front bumber after I take that damed bracket off. I wouldn't mind a road trip from WI to CA especially since you've recieved the ultimate thumbs up from FBF.
Yes Wisconsin does. Do we whip out the Black n Decker to pop holes in CORVETTES? - H*LL NO!!!!!!

The Camaro will come with a front plate "kit" to the states requiring a front plate. The dealership installs them IF REQUESTED TO DO SO ONLY!

Like the Corvette, your Camaro will include that kit IN THE TRUNK, Unless you request to have it installed.

We'll also PASS on the dealer decal on the back. It doesn't go on VETTES, it AIN'T going on the CAMARO!
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I'm pretty sure GM allocates based on those points you mentioned above; who can sell more of the cars as opposed to another. They learned from the GTO sales how to do it wrong...so I'm confident they'll get it right this time as far as who could sell the most.

I think I remember reading (not sure) CamaroScotty saying that after the first couple rounds of allotments, it'll turn into a free-for-all.
That's still how I understand it....The Malibu started the same way -

And when open allocation starts, I expect every dealer to become even more price competitive, including us! Even those Camaro forum jumpers who in the next few weeks that will decide they better start talking to the people looking for theses cars...They'll all of a sudden want to be Camaro salesmen. BUT, if they had the passion & the love for the car and it's history, wouldn't they have been here already?
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Yikes! For the cost of gas from WI to CA, you could get a professional to fill the holes. For a fraction of that cost, you could bribe a dirty dealer to zip-tie the bracket instead of screwing it. For free, you might convince a decent dealer that you're going to install it yourself and that they shouldn't put holes in the bumper...
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When will you start taking deposits for the possibly Z28?




Yeah, I know he won't answer even if he knows, but I feel like its worth trying!
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:48 PM   #28
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When will you start taking deposits for the possibly Z28?




Yeah, I know he won't answer even if he knows, but I feel like its worth trying!

I have one for a Z28, if any become available in the next 12 months.....at the buyers decision. He wants to be the first one to get one. If it looks like it will be a long delay, and it is not acceptable to him, he's either moving to an SS (and maybe talking to Lingenfelter) or getting a refund of the deposit.

Ultimately, we'll keep him informed of all happenings as far as models, ordering, and pricing, etc. - he remains the one to pull the trigger
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Old 07-18-2008, 11:03 AM   #29
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Scotty, a few questions on this since you seem to be about the best wealth of knowledge for information from a dealer:

Question about allocations: Do allocations come down by engine type? I hear about numbers but if everyone preorders a V8 they cant possibly make those all at once... If im looking for a V6 will that help in the waiting list saga if the majority on the list want a V8?

I am currently overseas and will return in January 2009 just in time for the model release and spend my time between Colorado an Washington. You said yall ship at no cost? how much additional time would it take to get to either of those places.

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Old 07-18-2008, 11:09 AM   #30
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Scotty, a few questions on this since you seem to be about the best wealth of knowledge for information from a dealer:

Question about allocations: Do allocations come down by engine type? I hear about numbers but if everyone preorders a V8 they cant possibly make those all at once... If im looking for a V6 will that help in the waiting list saga if the majority on the list want a V8?

I am currently overseas and will return in January 2009 just in time for the model release and spend my time between Colorado an Washington. You said yall ship at no cost? how much additional time would it take to get to either of those places.

Thanks for your time.
As far as we know there is no limitations between the base and the SS. We'll know more next Tuesday. Right now I see a balance between both models. Shipping in not free...But if we drop ship to your local dealer, we pay them the customary $200 PDI fee that most dealers do. Being a Camaro, they can ask for more. We'll work with you to find a dealer who won't beat you up on the PDI,but if there's additional cost, that's an added expense to the price of the car. As far as additional time - We order it, specifing a particular dealer for delivery. It wouldn't be much different than sending it to us. It will go directly there from the factory.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:25 PM   #31
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hey scotty once high demand has drizzled off do you think you'll be offering the camaros for GM supplier pricing for military?
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So in talking with a few local dealers.. a couple of them are saying that the factory is not taking orders. They will get an allotment of cars that they dont know what the optioning combination will be. They then have a waiting list to choose from this allocation. Being new to this .... is this just how their dealership is doing buisiness (ie blowing smoke up their customers) or is this how the ordering will be for the first shipments with preorders coming later?

Also what is a normal first shipment of cars to a dealer ( i know it depends on the size of the dealer.... but on average....) 5? 15? 50?.....
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camaro scotty my name is Jason I live in california in the san fran bay area! if i ordered from you can you drop ship at local dealer! I want to order a camaro but want to see other the other options and sales brochere the offical one : ) thanks jason aol IM jay442man
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So in talking with a few local dealers.. a couple of them are saying that the factory is not taking orders. They will get an allotment of cars that they dont know what the optioning combination will be. They then have a waiting list to choose from this allocation. Being new to this .... is this just how their dealership is doing buisiness (ie blowing smoke up their customers) or is this how the ordering will be for the first shipments with preorders coming later?

Also what is a normal first shipment of cars to a dealer ( i know it depends on the size of the dealer.... but on average....) 5? 15? 50?.....
Orders will not be submitted until January. Ordering details, options, pricing should be available in December, thats when we can "build & price" cars. Orders can be for customers, or if a dealer has no customer orders - they can be "for the lot".

As far as quantity - no one knows.....Lets just say somewhere in that range
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