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Old 09-08-2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Lingenfelter 650 hp build w/pics

I am starting this new thread because there are a few members cars at LPE as I type. We have both the 570 and 650 packages going on.
Ryan promised pictures along the way so I will keep updating as we move along.

From now on I will post the updates and pictures in a new post further in the thread.
Mine is a Blk 2SS/RS, M6 package dicribed below:

Camaro Gen 5 - 2010 > Camaro SS 2010 378 CID LS3 - 650 HP TVS2300 Supercharger Package
650 BHP / 630 lbs-ft of torque

- Engine removal, disassembly and inspection
- Lingenfelter CNC porting of LS3 cylinder heads
- Lingenfelter multi-angle valve job, cc cylinder chambers
- OE 2.165" hollow stem intake / 1.59" heavy duty Inconnel exhaust valves
- Surfacing for correct compression, Competition Cams valve springs
- Mahle forged coated aluminum pistons and tool steel pins
- Oliver 4340 forged billet steel “I” beam connecting rods
- Computer balanced LS3 crankshaft & rotating assembly
- Total seal file fit rings
- Clevite Heavy duty rod & main bearings
- Head gaskets, head bolts
- TVS2300 intercooled supercharger system
- Black powder coated finish
- Based on OEM Eaton supercharger unit
- Fuel system upgrades and properly sized fuel injectors
- 160 Degree thermostat
- Ported & polished LS3 throttle body
- Lingenfelter High Flow Air Intake
- Boost by pass system
- Professional engine installation, testing & tuning
- Chassis dyno report before & after installation
- Excellent drivability, highway mileage not adversely affected
- Lingenfelter 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty
- Lingenfelter certificate of authenticity
Dual disc clutch and flywheel assembly
Lingenfelter aluminum coil covers
Corsa stainless steel cat back exhaust
Chrome LPE fender badges
HD rear half shafts

Ryan and LPE made good on the Baseline Dyno Sheet! He said my engine has been pulled and he will try to get the first photo updates to us later today.
Thanks Ryan!
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:58 PM   #2
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With it being rebuilt with forged internals, is 650 the most you can get safely or just the most they will warrantee? Seems like it could take a LOT more.

That's is going to be quite the car when it's done.
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Definately going to be a fun ride
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:18 PM   #4
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With it being rebuilt with forged internals, is 650 the most you can get safely or just the most they will warrantee? Seems like it could take a LOT more.

That's is going to be quite the car when it's done.
The 2010 Camaro is quite a car stock, I can't wait til she is Lingenfeltered!

LPE wont go over the 570 HP without doing the internals, I am sure this is for the warranty.
I know you can go a lot higher but you will have to run higher than 93 octane gas to keep it together. Not much if you drive it much.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:31 PM   #5
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Sweet. I'm sure it will be awesome $20k is a serious package.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:48 PM   #6
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mws, have you heard anything on the progress of your car?
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Sweet. I'm sure it will be awesome $20k is a serious package.
I have said it here before, LPE costs are just part of it. The bathroom remodeling job my wife is charging me is worse. LOL
I guess it is just part of being married, although she did give me the car is yours but the bathroom is all of ours. I guess I am lucky she lets me indulge my car passion and will actually enjoy some of it with me. Just hope I can stay out of the kitchen remodeling business.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:44 PM   #8
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mws, have you heard anything on the progress of your car?
Just emailed Ryan for an update, also asked for the baseline dyno sheet and will post it up when I get it.
Ryan has been really cool about all of my changes, LPE are a great bunch of guys to deal with, they even had my windows tinted while it was up there.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:16 PM   #9
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For what all is included it's not that bad of a price. I would just expect more power out of a setup like that.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:45 PM   #11
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For what all is included it's not that bad of a price. I would just expect more power out of a setup like that.
I am sure they could turn the boost up and get alot more power with a smaller pulley or a blower cam but I think for warranty purposes it is 650.
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For what all is included it's not that bad of a price. I would just expect more power out of a setup like that.
There is a certain point where "more power" becomes a moot point. Longevity and drive ability get affected. If you can't apply it to the pavement, it's useless. 3000 HP isn't going to help unless one can control it. If someone wants to build a car strictly for the track, then that's a different story. It's bad enough trying to show enough self control in ever day driving to keep from blowing the doors off every Mustang you see!
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This is for sure the way to do it if you desire boost + longevity...If I had the money when I started this would have been the way I would have gone...with the 2300 and shot for 14 psi...But when you start making more power, then the rear end and tranny become issues...I know I'm probably pushing it for longevity on the tranny, you 6sp manual guys are already seeing some of that stuff. We have heard rumors the rear is good to 600rwhp, but a shortblock like LPE is mentioning with a 2300 at 12-14psi would be WELL past that...if you want to run with the GT500's this is what you MUST do, but be prepared to start replacing driveline parts if you do...

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I have said it here before, LPE costs are just part of it. The bathroom remodeling job my wife is charging me is worse. LOL
I guess it is just part of being married, although she did give me the car is yours but the bathroom is all of ours. I guess I am lucky she lets me indulge my car passion and will actually enjoy some of it with me. Just hope I can stay out of the kitchen remodeling business.
Completely understand, just built an addition and partial kitchen remodel. Enjoy it, you only live once!
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Completely understand, just built an addition and partial kitchen remodel. Enjoy it, you only live once!
Wow, so I am not alone here. Truth be told no telling what all of this really costs us. But you are right we can't take it with us, and a little fun while we are here is a blessing.
I guess once we see to it the wife and kids are taken care of and set, we should enjoy ourselves a little, and horsepower is so much fun!
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Ok, guys just got off the phone with Ryan at LPE. He said they are really busy up there, too cool to think there are still a bunch of car nuts like us are pushing the envelope and going for the best in Camaro performance.:burnrubber
He said they have to get two Camaros finished for SEMA, sounds like the Camaro will be the #1 car represented there this year! Will be interesting to see just how many Camaros are going to be out :there this year. He said he is trying to get my baseline dyno sheet to me but it is in a different department so he has to wait for them to get it to them. I will post it up as soon as I get it, he also could'nt promise how many or how often but pictures will be on the way during the build.
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Yes, I also heard that the 2010 Camaro will be "in almost every booth" at SEMA.

It is the HOT car to have right now. Will be interesting to see if it is still this popular next year at the show.

The reason I am building a Camaro as opposed to a corvette is the entry price.

35K for the car + 30K upgrades = 1 corvette w/exhaust..

I think a built camaro will be more fun as it is customized and will be unique. I could never bring myself to spend 40K above the price of the 'vette. I wanted to, just could never pull the trigger on the vette upgrades.
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35K for the car + 30K upgrades = 1 corvette w/exhaust..
Its a little more like, One Corvette Grand Sport 2010 (55K) plus a TT 10K.
You an buy 1LT Corvettes now a days with rebates for 39k. So if that is the case you can get a lot of mods on a Corvette too unless that is a 26k dollar exhaust system...LOL

I have had LPE cars in the past and think they are amazing though. So, I can understand why.
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Indpower said:Its a little more like, One Corvette Grand Sport 2010 (55K) plus a TT 10K.

your a little off on the TT price I get the idea though.

Yes, a new Grand Sport and an Exhaust,
or an older Corvette with lots of really cool mods.

I finally paid off my 2005 corvette..
It became my deposit for the Camaro.

I didn't want to start at LPE with a used car...
It was a nice vette too.. I had a lot (8 or 9?) of them.
It was time for something different, and I can use the back seat for the 4 year old. I always liked Camaro's.. My first car was a '67 Z/28. Wish i still had that one.. sigh..!!
My little Kimberly likes daddy's Race Car.
I can hear her little voice now...Go faster daddy! ...faster! .....FASTER!

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Nice baseline numbers mws. Looks like the log jam is breaking loose.
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Its a little more like, One Corvette Grand Sport 2010 (55K) plus a TT 10K.
You an buy 1LT Corvettes now a days with rebates for 39k. So if that is the case you can get a lot of mods on a Corvette too unless that is a 26k dollar exhaust system...LOL

I have had LPE cars in the past and think they are amazing though. So, I can understand why.
What do you you mean had? Did you get rid of your LPE vette?
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MWS - you snuck in that dyno graph of the Baseline! (Nice #'s BTW)

so... anyone got a date yet.. or are we ALL waiting for the SEMA cars to be done?
I bet they are REAL BAD ones...
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Ok guys, here are the pictures Ryan sent me, it looks as though they are about ready to pull the engine. My guess is by Monday that bad boy will be out of there! This is sooo cooool, watching my car through this tranformation (I know cheap pun).
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That is way cool mws ur car is getting naked, Did they move your car to the machine shop?
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They pull the engine in the main shop, then send the underachiever over to the machine shop for an attitude adjustment. Should exit there as an overachieving bad-a$$ chomping at the bit to eat a few snakes.

If I remember an old article from last years SEMA builds right they pull the engine by droping out from underneath.
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