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PFL · 07-19-2016, 09:15 AM

I have searched, I see that the pilots Camaro drag by removing front sway bar. which improves performance by removing the front sway bar?

Motorboy8769 · 07-19-2016, 09:45 PM

I unbolted mine if you are running skinnies it works great. I did notice with the stock front tires and street driving that it will follow grooves in the road big time and jerk the car around. Also a lot more body roll. As for the strip and slow mo videos it does seem to allow a lot better weight transfer

PFL · 07-20-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboy8769

I unbolted mine if you are running skinnies it works great. I did notice with the stock front tires and street driving that it will follow grooves in the road big time and jerk the car around. Also a lot more body roll. As for the strip and slow mo videos it does seem to allow a lot better weight transfer

Thank's man

Mr. Nasty · 07-20-2016, 03:08 PM

I removed mine over 4 years ago no issues with driving. But you will have more body roll on hard turns.

swiftkart · 07-22-2016, 12:01 PM

How much of an improvement in 60' or overall traction did you see MR. Nasty?

LahmannSS · 07-28-2016, 08:24 AM

I removed mine this year for drag racing....with BMR split drop springs (1.4" front and 1" rear) I have not seen much difference in handling. Like stated earlier it follows grooves in the road a little worse but overall not bad.

62nalide · 07-29-2016, 09:10 PM

3 years with it out mine

Pro Stock John · 07-30-2016, 11:46 AM

I don't have before/after, but the car weight transfers more.

Negatively affects handling as you would expect.

2NASSTY · 08-01-2016, 09:48 AM

My Car went the other way badly with sway bar disconnected. Tried it on both MT Street Radial II and new MT street Rs. Car could not hook at all.

GODZL1A · 08-01-2016, 01:14 PM

Maybe it's a mag ride thing?

Off subject are the M/T street R's better then the M/T street II's

Norm Peterson · 08-01-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GODZL1A

Maybe it's a mag ride thing?

It's an IRS and rear cradle bushing stiffness thing.

In any event, losing the front sta-bar on an IRS car will not help you as much as removing the front bar on a stock-suspended stick axle car (stock suspended meaning most anything other than a ladder-bar car). Mostly all you get is the weight reduction off the nose.

Norm

2NASSTY · 08-02-2016, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swiftkart

How much of an improvement in 60' or overall traction did you see MR. Nasty?

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Originally Posted by GODZL1A

Maybe it's a mag ride thing?

Off subject are the M/T street R's better then the M/T street II's

Yes they are. The new street R's are basically a slick tire wall with new drag radial surface compound. Knocked .15 tenths off my 60' compared to Street Radial IIs. I believe there is more in it at a lower tire pressure according to M/T Tech that was helping me out with this new tire.

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

It's an IRS and rear cradle bushing stiffness thing.

In any event, losing the front sta-bar on an IRS car will not help you as much as removing the front bar on a stock-suspended stick axle car (stock suspended meaning most anything other than a ladder-bar car). Mostly all you get is the weight reduction off the nose.

Norm

. Sounds about right Man. That definitely explains what it felt like with the front sway bar disconnected. Front nose came up nicely ready to hook. Rear suspension then unloads and I spun badly at various launch rpms and tire pressures. Nothing I tried could make this damn thing hook with sway bar disconnected.

Pro Stock John · 08-02-2016, 01:44 PM

I think taking off the sway bar helps even with IRS. My car works a little better.

Stick might be different. Got to keep the nose up with stick or u will unload the back.

dreyesforeal · 08-02-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2NASSTY

Yes they are. The new street R's are basically a slick tire wall with new drag radial surface compound. Knocked .15 tenths off my 60' compared to Street Radial IIs. I believe there is more in it at a lower tire pressure according to M/T Tech that was helping me out with this new tire. .

You got a link to the Mickey Thompson street r''s?? I got cooper rs3 wheels on right now but wanna look at the mt's. Want tires that look good AND can hook when it's time to get new tires.
The cooper's are great in rain tho I hope to not lose handling during normal street driving

07-19-2016, 09:15 AM	#1
PFL Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Eua Posts: 344	Removal front sway bar for drag racing I have searched, I see that the pilots Camaro drag by removing front sway bar. which improves performance by removing the front sway bar?

07-20-2016, 03:08 PM	#4
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	I removed mine over 4 years ago no issues with driving. But you will have more body roll on hard turns. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

07-28-2016, 08:24 AM	#6
LahmannSS Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 "The Reaper" Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Falls, Ia Posts: 44	I removed mine this year for drag racing....with BMR split drop springs (1.4" front and 1" rear) I have not seen much difference in handling. Like stated earlier it follows grooves in the road a little worse but overall not bad. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS, L99 MODS: Texas Speed 1 7/8" long tubes, not cats \| Borla S-type catback with X pipe \| K&N Typhoon intake \| FBM Tune \| B&M 20,000btu tranny cooler \| BMR split drop lowering springs \| 20" black chrome Havoc wheels \| gloss black calipers \| smoked tail lights \| black bowties \| 25% window tint \| debadged Best time slip: 12.902 @107.24mph 1.964 60'

07-29-2016, 09:10 PM	#7
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	3 years with it out mine __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

07-30-2016, 11:46 AM	#8
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I don't have before/after, but the car weight transfers more. Negatively affects handling as you would expect. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-19-2016, 09:45 PM	#2
Motorboy8769 Drives: 2015 2ss Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wooster ohio Posts: 586	I unbolted mine if you are running skinnies it works great. I did notice with the stock front tires and street driving that it will follow grooves in the road big time and jerk the car around. Also a lot more body roll. As for the strip and slow mo videos it does seem to allow a lot better weight transfer

07-22-2016, 12:01 PM	#5
swiftkart Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 693	How much of an improvement in 60' or overall traction did you see MR. Nasty?

08-01-2016, 09:48 AM	#9
2NASSTY Drives: 2014 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tarpon Springs, Fl Posts: 772	My Car went the other way badly with sway bar disconnected. Tried it on both MT Street Radial II and new MT street Rs. Car could not hook at all. __________________ 15' Ashen Gray Metallic Z/28 14' Crystal Red Tintcoat ZL1 6M, 9.62 at 150.75 MPH 12' Opulent Blue Metallic CTS-V Sedan, 10.690 at 129.60 MPH - SOLD 06' LeMans Blue Metallic Z06, 11.726 at 127.80 MPH Motor - SOLD. 96' Impala SS LTx, 11.397 at 118.10 MPH Motor, 1st stage 10.526 at 127.46 MPH

08-01-2016, 01:14 PM	#10
GODZL1A Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: florida Posts: 487	Maybe it's a mag ride thing? Off subject are the M/T street R's better then the M/T street II's

08-02-2016, 01:44 PM	#13
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I think taking off the sway bar helps even with IRS. My car works a little better. Stick might be different. Got to keep the nose up with stick or u will unload the back. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800