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Old 04-09-2007, 12:06 PM   #15
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Sorry! I just couldn't contain myself!
That about says it all!!!!
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:43 PM   #16
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But I bet they run the LS3 base stock for the entry level V8...400hp. Then, the real LS3 is released as the upper level V8 pushing 450hp. Then, the SC'd at 550hp. Unless they really do have 3 different V8's......C'mon 3Whiterag...we promise we won't tell!!!
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my biggy question 3whiterag is gm considering the ls3 the base v8 (aka the base mustang) for price or is the ls3(supercharged or not) the gt500 competition?

If the ls3 is in the gt500 range.. my guess is the l98 is the base v8!?!?!

PS - i really wish the ls3 would be the base v8
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:07 PM   #18
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my biggy question 3whiterag is gm considering the ls3 the base v8 (aka the base mustang) for price or is the ls3(supercharged or not) the gt500 competition?

If the ls3 is in the gt500 range.. my guess is the l98 is the base v8!?!?!

PS - i really wish the ls3 would be the base v8
I doubt 3whiterag would be able to answer that... it seems as though only those who are directly involved with the Camaro project know those details.

I would really like to see the LS3 as the base V8; however, just about every source has mentioned multiple V8 options. Therefore, I would think it is a good bet that there will be two different V8s and the lineup will include the L98, the LS3, and a s/c LS3.

If they are going to offer the L98 as a base V8, then the LS3 option had better come with some worthwhile upgrades (better suspension, bigger brakes, etc) in order to justify the price differential because there is no way the engine alone is any more expensive to produce.

I really wish we had an idea of pricing though. If there will be an L98 base V8, then it will likely start around $29-30k. I would then assume that the LS3 will start at $35k, which is my upper most limit... so we will see.
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my biggy question 3whiterag is gm considering the ls3 the base v8 (aka the base mustang) for price or is the ls3(supercharged or not) the gt500 competition?

If the ls3 is in the gt500 range.. my guess is the l98 is the base v8!?!?!

PS - i really wish the ls3 would be the base v8
First of all - a.k.a. means "also known as". I hope to God Camaro isn't going to be known as Mustang.... I think the only way Mustang will make it's way into the Camaro name is with killer after it.

Second - I don't think SS (assuming this is Top Dog) will be the equivalant of a GT500. That may have to be a limited Production Camaro model, in order to compete. My belief is that 'SS' is going to be an apperance/perfomance package again. Not a-whole-nother trim level. Chevrolet says they are going to take it easy with the SS this and SS that. If they weren't careful we may have ended up with an Uplander SS. So to make a Camaro SS when Z28 already has dibbs would be kind of pointless IMO.

And as far as I have heard: The L98 is supposed to be the foundation of the LS3 (IMO the high-end Camaro V8)- keep in mind the L98 is still a truck engine so.............
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First of all - a.k.a. means "also known as". I hope to God Camaro isn't going to be known as Mustang.... I think the only way Mustang will make it's way into the Camaro name is with killer after it.

Second - I don't think SS (assuming this is Top Dog) will be the equivalant of a GT500. That may have to be a limited Production Camaro model, in order to compete. My belief is that 'SS' is going to be an apperance/perfomance package again. Not a-whole-nother trim level. Chevrolet says they are going to take it easy with the SS this and SS that. If they weren't careful we may have ended up with an Uplander SS. So to make a Camaro SS when Z28 already has dibbs would be kind of pointless IMO.

And as far as I have heard: The L98 is supposed to be the foundation of the LS3 (IMO the high-end Camaro V8)- keep in mind the L98 is still a truck engine so.............

Just a point of clarification.

Actually, I believe the L98 is a slightly modified version of the L76... both of which have been used exclusively in the Holdens (until the G8 makes its debut, and until the L76's production on the GM trucks). I think the L98 is actually on its way out and is being replaced with the L76 which has a slightly higher displacement, but, ironically, makes slightly less power. - although power is being ramped up for the G8 just slightly to match the L98's power.

I believe the L92 (the 6.2L LS3 based block used in the Cadillac's) is the one you were referring to...
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Old 04-09-2007, 02:21 PM   #21
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How about this scenario...... Three V8 choices. Makes sense to me. Can you guys figure out which ones they are or they may be? We know there are going to be some six cylinder models, and a base v8. Go from there. I know what we are building but I can only surmise where they are going.... Isn't this exciting? Oh yeah! You guys are jumping all over the place. Sit down and relax and think about it. Common sense prevails....then do the opposite.
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Old 04-09-2007, 02:26 PM   #22
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my biggy question 3whiterag is gm considering the ls3 the base v8 (aka the base mustang) for price or is the ls3(supercharged or not) the gt500 competition?

If the ls3 is in the gt500 range.. my guess is the l98 is the base v8!?!?!

PS - i really wish the ls3 would be the base v8
Lets get one thing straight, the GT500 is not the base mustang so why would the LS3 be in the base Camaro?
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True Casull, my bad. I was thinking of the L92.........(grumble) stupid codes.
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Lets get one thing straight, the GT500 is not the base mustang so why would the LS3 be in the base Camaro?
Well, it is going to take more than just the LS3 to compete witht he GT500... that s/c version we keep hearing about would do the trick. The LS3 alone will just not do - it would compete somewhere between the GT and the GT500...
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Well, it is going to take more than just the LS3 to compete witht he GT500... that s/c version we keep hearing about would do the trick. The LS3 alone will just not do - it would compete somewhere between the GT and the GT500...

I guess that would be your answer then...

This is how I see it, keep in mind no insider info here, this is just me babbling...

Base v8 = LH6 5.3L DoD 310? hp.
upgraded V8 = LS3 450hp.
Camaro SS = a whole lotta Hp.

How is that?
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upgraded V8 = LS3 450hp.
Camaro SS = a whole lotta Hp.

How is that?

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I guess that would be your answer then...

This is how I see it, keep in mind no insider info here, this is just me babbling...

Base v8 = LH6 5.3L DoD 310? hp.
upgraded V8 = LS3 450hp.
Camaro SS = a whole lotta Hp.

How is that?
I dunno... I don't think they will have any form of the 5.3 as an option. The 5.3 is strictly a truck engine (if I am not mistaken). my guess would be that they will use the same 6.0L (L76) that they will be using in the G8/Impalas/etc that gets ~360HP.

The Mustang's power is speculated to be ramped up by the time the Camaro comes out to around 350 hp, so the L76 would work much better than the 5.3L.... just my 2 cents.
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I dunno... I don't think they will have any form of the 5.3 as an option. The 5.3 is strictly a truck engine (if I am not mistaken). my guess would be that they will use the same 6.0L (L76) that they will be using in the G8/Impalas/etc that gets ~360HP.

The Mustang's power is speculated to be ramped up by the time the Camaro comes out to around 350 hp, so the L76 would work much better than the 5.3L.... just my 2 cents.
Nope... 5.3L DOD is not strictly a truck engine... the aluminum block will be in cars as well. This should give the consumer what they want, a wide range of choices in a V8 engine.
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