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View Poll Results: What is the Camaro's weakest link?
Camaro SS lower grill 10 6.13%
Must buy a package to get a single option 26 15.95%
Camaro weight 61 37.42%
0-60 time; 1/4 mile time 14 8.59%
Radio 10 6.13%
SS front bumper scoop (Mail slot) 6 3.68%
Camaro SS front bumper 7 4.29%
Potential price (I think it will be too expensive) 30 18.40%
Mpg on the V8 18 11.04%
Mpg on the V6 8 4.91%
They don't offer the color I really wanted 4 2.45%
Currently not offering Z28 27 16.56%
Trunk space 5 3.07%
Interior 5 3.07%
It doesn't really turn into giant alien robot with cannons 62 38.04%
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:09 AM   #26
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It just means I want my car to pick me out of a crowd instead of the other way around.

Imagine going to the mall, parking your car, and forgetting where it is. You can yell, "Camaro, where are you?" It'll stand up and wave at you. How sick would that be?
a car can do such a thing. if it's at the right price and it feels perfect when you sit in it then it's yours. I've sat in several different cars (all the same model) and didn't feel right in it. but then sat down in one and it just felt at home. . .lol.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:53 AM   #27
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There are some shortcomings that are fine and expected in today's cars. My problem is that I feel we were mislead a little. Like with the weight, it was said that the car went to Jenny Craig and I thought I heard somewhere that the V8 would be 3700lbs but no where near 3850.

I also heard that it would have E85 and I was really hoping it would. I agree with others that it would have been nice to see 30mpg in the V6. The drag coefficient on the V8 is .35 so neither car is going to have the mileage of the Corvette because I believe its CE is .27. But being close would have been nice.

I really hate that 18's and 20's are standard on the V6 and V8. I can't believe that is the case. It definitely should have been an option. That is going to raise the base price. Which brings me to pricing. I realize that we have not been told pricing but I have a bad feeling. I really hope I'm wrong.

The performance times worry me a bit as well. It basically performs the same as the SS did 10 years ago. I realize there are many factors that go into this.

I also realize that many of these numbers are subject to change. I was really disappointed when I saw the spec sheet because I was so excited about this car coming back. So, try to go easy on me. I don't want to be labeled.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:58 AM   #28
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a car can do such a thing. if it's at the right price and it feels perfect when you sit in it then it's yours. I've sat in several different cars (all the same model) and didn't feel right in it. but then sat down in one and it just felt at home. . .lol.
I felt that way in my Cobalt. It wasn't the most powerful or best car in the world, but it felt like home. I expect that with my Camaro as well.

I still want a transforming robot for a car, though. It doesn't matter how homely my Camaro is. If I can find a transforming robot car under $30k, I'm trading!
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:58 AM   #29
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Well If you believe everything you hear, you are going to be let down a whole lot in life.

drive it first, then see how you really feel, maybe your opinion will change.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:36 PM   #30
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I wanted Bumblebee...like...the Robot. If it doesn't transform, I'm freaking buying a Toyota! At least those transform into a mistake!
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:37 PM   #31
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I wanted Bumblebee...like...the Robot. If it doesn't transform, I'm freaking buying a Toyota! At least those transform into a mistake!
Dragoneye is with me! We're getting robots!
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:40 PM   #32
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:26 PM   #33
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i still cant get over how they r mot offering the Z28........YET
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:51 PM   #34
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My biggest issues:

1. Does not follow the concept body shape (proportions are all different) :upset:
2. Can't stand the SS bumper
3. Not happy that the tail lights do not have the afterburner look
4. Don't understand why it will take 12 months to integrate the HUD into the car?

Nevertheless I still like the car.

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Old 07-23-2008, 04:10 PM   #35
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I heard that there 's no EU version of the car that transforms into Zeus and starts farting lightning from its rear.

I was rly hoping for one...
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Imagine going to the mall, parking your car, and forgetting where it is. You can yell, "Camaro, where are you?" It'll stand up and wave at you. How sick would that be?
that would be AWESOME!

everytime I go to a hockey game, to Busch Gardens, or pretty much to any place with a parking lot, I forget where I parked :/
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:29 PM   #37
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1. Does not follow the concept body shape (proportions are all different) :upset:
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:37 PM   #38
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Going with:

Must buy a package to get a single option
And potientally, Radio.

The first because it's one of those things I dislike with car companies in general.
The second is potentially since the radio is integrated and there seems to be no way to get aftermarket. Now I love the look of it, but one day that's going to break and you just know that it's gonna be tricky to get it out and replaced.
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My votes, in order of severity:

Weight: nearly 4000 lbs for the V8 is simply too much. That's putting it on a diet? How does a small-midsize coupe weigh just about as much as the G8, a full-size family sedan?

Trunk Space: I wasn't expecting much from the trunk space. I understand it is a sporty coupe and actually the trunk space itself looks pretty darn good considering. What does bother me is the same thing that bothers me on my Cobalt coupe: The darn opening is so itty bitty and high up that it makes it nearly impossible to get any large objects in that would otherwise fit.

Fuel economy of the V8: This doesn't mean much to me personally as my commuting habits make MPG all but irrelevant, but I still think they could do better. Again, I think the G8 might even do better, and it is a full-size sedan. Yes it makes less power, but that connection isn't always solid.

Must buy a package: Of course I understand why GM does this (it really is much more profitable) and I know just about everyone else does it to a much greater extent. However, Ford is the major exception and I think that does give the Mustang an advantage. True some options prevent the selection of others, but the ability to mix-and-match options on the Mustang is unparalleled. Now we don't know for sure what will be offered only as part of a package yet, but it sounds like it won't quite match the Mustang. Too bad.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:35 PM   #40
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36% of the vote for Weight so far, I guess I wasn't so crazy after all.

She is beautiful but she sure is BIG BONED!!!
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:50 PM   #41
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I can't just let this go. I was expecting a freaking machine, not just a car. I wanted it to choose me like they said in the movie. I wanted to show up at the Chevy dealership and have a Camaro stand up, point to me, and say, "I want that one." Why did Chevrolet lie to me?
thats would be sick or your driving by and it jumps out in front of you (like in Transformers when Optimus jumps out in front of the S7 guys) and tells you to get out of the car and then it transforms and says get in
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Huh?
If you compare all the body panels between the concept and the (pre-)production cars, almost everything is different.

Contrary to what others said I do not think that it is only the back end and the roof height that are different.

E.g. if you look at the car from the front, the production car's front end looks significantly more narrow and tall while the concept is wide and low.

Another example: The distance from the door to the front wheel arch looks much shorter on the production cars (it may not be shorter in absolute terms but it seems to be compared to other dimensions).

All this together somehow for me makes the difference between a design that immediately fascinates when you see it (concept) and a much more regular, common looking car. Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I still like the production shape but it's just missing that little extra 'something.
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The Weight is a big issue. Its causing to lag the true performance of this car. 422hp car should not be doing only 13.4 in the 1/4th
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^also, with gas it is hurting the fuel economy significantly and that's a double wammy.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:47 AM   #45
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Poll option 16:

That this ugly beast is the best they could do for the Firebird version. (that they won't build anyway so it doesn't matter.)

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Old 07-24-2008, 09:02 AM   #46
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That this ugly beast is the best they could do for the Firebird version. (that they won't build anyway so it doesn't matter.)

+1

I was hoping for a Trans AM / Firebird :-(

My Most important one is ....







It doesn't really turn into a giant alien robot complete with cannons!


The Rest of the car is AWESOME !!!!
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The Weight is a big issue. Its causing to lag the true performance of this car. 422hp car should not be doing only 13.4 in the 1/4th
Those numbers (and the rest of the numbers in the article you found them in) are incorrect.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:54 AM   #48
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I'm giving a Corbert BUMP to this....lol

So far, 36% says it all...while realistically, I don't think much can be done from now to production.

BUT, since Ford is talking about lowering the weight of the Mustang GM probably should listen.
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What concerns me:

1) Weight, weight, weight (should be < 3650lbs)
2) Potentail price of the Camaro (should be < 28.5K for ss)
3) Fuel economy (should be > 26mpg)
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I'm giving a Corbert BUMP to this....lol

So far, 36% says it all...while realistically, I don't think much can be done from now to production.

BUT, since Ford is talking about lowering the weight of the Mustang GM probably should listen.
If this is truly the case and the Ford Mustang GT becomes faster than it already is and GM does nothing about the Camaros weight and performance, then I am finished with the Camaro. Maybe I'll get me a used Corvette or GTO. Don't get me wrong, I'm a die hard Camaro fan through and through - but there has to be a point where I draw the line.
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