02-02-2021, 05:20 AM | #15 |
Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2018
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02-02-2021, 01:15 PM | #16 |
Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 coupe Join Date: Feb 2020
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Yes, both vehicles mechanically are stock. My car was already in winter storage when he picked it up, so no, we haven’t raced. But I did drive his car briefly and although quick, it felt more refined and muted than the rawness of the ZL1. I didn’t fully get on it mind you and I suspect despite less HP, it’s quicker 0-60 in part due to weight. My butt dyno just didn’t feel it the same as in the ZL1. Here is a pic of his beauty - very sexy machine and I love the Kalahari leather.
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02-03-2021, 12:38 PM | #17 | |
Drives: High HP V8 Join Date: Apr 2020
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Beautiful car and your ZL1 looks very nice too. You both look like you take good care of your cars. I do prefer the ZL1 for it’s raw looks and better daily drivability. Just curious what makes the ZL1 feel more raw compared to the vette? Is it the look, sounds, and driving experience of the ZL1 versus the vette? |
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02-03-2021, 10:16 PM | #18 |
Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016
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You gotta mod the GS... Between my cammed camaro and my cammed C6Z.... C6Z all the way. However, with my camaro now, and the fact that it’s boosted I like my camaro slightly more.
Dig the gray
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02-04-2021, 12:42 AM | #19 |
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Clarksville Tennesse.
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As owner of both a 2010 Camaro SS an a 2017 C7 GS coupe, while the SS don’t have the power of the ZL1 mine is still pretty quick and it’s a stick so it’s drivers car my GS is a A8 coupe. I’ve tracked both cars at NCM in Apr of 2019.
Camaro again a drivers car due it being a stick. Takes a little effort to drive you really have to stay on your toes. A little stiff due to sways an lowering springs. Not as quick due to weight. Standard suspension. The Corvette is a racers car with all the computers. Easy to drive just point an go basically. Stiff when it needs to be. Has the Magnetic suspension like the ZL1, I’m sure a little refined due to it being newer. I love both cars an I can’t pick a favorite because both cars bring so much to the table in performance. Once I do do my heads an cam swap and get wheels and proper tires the Camaro will as quick or quicker than the Vette. All in all love both cars an will try to keep as long as possible.
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02-04-2021, 12:44 AM | #20 |
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009
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My Rides
Ignore the caption my was being funny when she posted it to Facebook.
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1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components. |
02-04-2021, 04:49 AM | #21 | |
Drives: 2010 2SS LS3 and 1978 STROKER 383 Join Date: Feb 2018
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"I think the thing that drove me away from Corvettes was the change in the people who were owning them. Forty years ago, it was folks who spun a wrench on them and were regular people. Now it's mostly people who are "look at me in my Corvette". This is exactly the behavior I encounter here in Europe. If this happened once, you would say O.K. a conceited person who thinks he has something more.But when you meet 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... the owner of a Corvette like this and he behaves the same way. Then it will completely discourage you. I call it Corvette syndrome :-) |
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02-04-2021, 09:01 AM | #22 |
Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010
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I wouldn't worry, as its your opinion and you are entitled to express it. I like hearing about experiences with other people's cars, regardless of whether I like it or not. I am not a vette person, but I do like the corvette in terms of its appeal and performance. You would be surprised in hearing some of the harsh criticism that some hold for Corvette. Again, its their opinion (which means nothing to me) and so be it.
What I am afraid of is losing such outstanding cars such as Camaro and Corvette due to the growing trend of producing electric cars.
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02-04-2021, 08:56 PM | #23 |
Brian
Appreciate the comparisons. Here’s my short version: Trade in my Crotch-Rocket for a Cruiser. Don’t mind “rocket” mode @ 185mph+ 2 x/ year.. But, nothing like a cruiser @ 70 and taking in the view...... Still love my 17’ ZL1 🤛🏿🤛🏿 |
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02-05-2021, 05:08 PM | #24 |
Drives: 2013 ZL1, 2017 GTI, 2015 KTM 1290R Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Up State South Carolina
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So a little follow up as I never expected this perspective to be a point of genuine conversation.
My wife disliked the Camaro for two reasons, one she could not get over the short windows and the overall lack of visibility. I live where there are not many straight roads so she would get car sick pretty frequently unless we were on the highway. The Corvette does have a much better field of view and I have the optional glass roof that makes the cabin feel even more "open". The second reason is one that was hinted around about, and in short she is snobby in this area. It is a camaro, which has all sorts of Joe Dirt type connotations. Me I wear this with a little bit of honor, she on the other hand just does not like this. I also forgot to mention my wife is British and by default has some pre disposed connotations. The irony of all of this is that way back when we decided to look at something of a sunday driver we initially looked at corvettes. The issue is I am pretty tall and I dont fit. That lead me to the Camaro as she hated a challenger and neither of us would go down the mustang route. What I did not know at the time is when the optional clear roof is installed you gain about 2-3 inch of head room. I found this out when I was early for a business meeting and was messing around at a dealership killing time. The conversation that was created by the thread is what I was really speaking about, genuine people have genuine conversation. If I do end up with the vette for a while I will be installing headers, and an Xpipe as I need a little something. Will keep you posted. |
02-05-2021, 07:34 PM | #25 |
Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013
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Hell I would just trade her off then! LOL! Just kidding. Keep the camaro and the vette to then you will have the best of both worlds. Also a happy wife!
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02-07-2021, 06:40 AM | #26 | |
Drives: ZL1 six speed manual Join Date: Jan 2018
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I kind of, sort of like the way C6 Corvette looks. I love the way C7 Z06 and especially the C7 ZR1 looks. I think the RS, SS and LT 5th generation Camaros looks like absolute crap in the front with that 50's square grille, and that they are not aggressive enough for a pony car, never you mind that they do not have enough torque for such a heavy vehicle. I love the way Z/28, ZL1 and ZL1 1LE look; I could stare at them for hours on end (6th generation less so, but I still find them beautiful). I would love to own a 2014 Z/28 and hope to acquire one after I sort out the next set of priorities. I think that the Dodge Hellcat wide body is the most beautiful American car to ever be designed; once I start collecting cars, a manual version will definitely be on the short list for my collection. Please help me decide between "Go Mango" and "Plum crazy Purple"! Last edited by Annatar; 02-07-2021 at 06:52 AM. |
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Drives: ZL1 six speed manual Join Date: Jan 2018
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Mine came with all the windows tinted. We spent almost five hours removing the tinted foils. I was cursing and swearing up and down the entire time at the idiotic moron who decided to tint the windows, one couldn't see didley-squat out of the windows when it was dark out and one had to change lanes! Then the issue of passengers being sick: can attest to that too. Women hate riding shotgun when taking that thing through the curves. I had several complain that they were going to vomit from nausea, and the irony is that I was taking it as easy as I could through the curves! Quote:
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02-07-2021, 12:24 PM | #28 |
Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013
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The second reason is one that was hinted around about, and in short she is snobby in this area.
The British are infamous for their rigid class system that one gets born into and can never break out of, no matter what one does, except by appointment by their monarch, and even then, their monarch has not accorded anyone hereditary peerage in I do not know how many (hundreds of?) years. Even hereditary peerage is a closed-off affair in their society. What the hell does this have to do with this conservation? I am totally confused!! I don't mean anything in a cocky way I am just trying to figure this part out? |
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