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08-14-2012, 12:17 PM | #16 |
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ZL1's should be in the 118mph-119mph range.
113mph is right around what an SS should be trapping. I've only seen one ZL1 trap 113mph & that was the one in the issue of Road & Track that was put up against the GTR. That ZL1 ran a 12.9 @ 113mph due to temp & elevation issues. All other ZL1's I've read about trapped much higher.
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This is NOT a new model, it's a "track pack" option package for the SS. "Winning our respect back, the 1LE remains surprisingly flat in corners with less body roll and more front-end grip than the Boss Mustang. And while the suspension changes keep understeer at bay, neither is the 1LE an oversteering lunatic. This Camaro can be pitched, chucked, and hurled into corners with reckless abandon and it remains a well-behaved, easily controlled pony. The (Boss) rear end is quite loose and the front tires will push to the outside of a corner if they aren't coaxed into a turn. Boss's edgier handling requires you to exercise the brakes harder to set up for corner entry. And even when you're not lapping as fast as the 1LE, you'll find yourself working more to get a clean lap. So while the Camaro is the faster car around a road course, the Boss is the more engaging and entertaining car. It's a challenge to drive perfectly." Their final statement is pure BS. What driver wants a car with these handling characteristics??? Whoever wrote this article is not a track driver!!! According to this write up the Boss is "Lipstick on a PIG!" "Despite knowing there's an objectively better alternative with a Chevy badge, we are lured back to the Boss again and again." ob·jec·tive·ly [ ob jéktivlee ] 1.without bias: without being influenced by personal feelings 2.accurately: on the basis of fact, experience, or some measurable quality Synonyms: impartially, dispassionately, neutrally, independently, Last edited by 2cnd chance; 08-14-2012 at 02:25 PM. |
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08-14-2012, 05:36 PM | #18 |
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Yes, Chevy "fixed" what was broke with the Camaro, but more importantly, the chassis setup, front-rear weight bias and platform solidity was built in from the beginning. All that was needed was fine tuning of bushings, tires, spring/rollbar/shock rates to create a superior performing vehicle accross the board.
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08-15-2012, 03:10 PM | #21 |
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Correct, however the reason for the pick is that it was a better handling, more controllable and an all-around more refined car. In this case they chose the car that underperformed, handled worse and was overall less refined!
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Yet now when they pick the car that is slower, but picked it bc they enjoyed it more they are full of it???? |
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08-15-2012, 03:50 PM | #23 | |
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08-15-2012, 06:52 PM | #24 |
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But they also chose the car at didn't perform as well(zl1)
All I'm saying is I found it ironic how the camaro faithful here are mad they chose the slower car bc theynenjoyed the way it handled, rode, and the mostimportant part of buying a car like this the enjoyment they got from it. Yet when they chose the zl1 with somewhat the same rationale it was praised despite being slower |
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Yes the ZL1 did not win in all categories, but what they enjoyed was its enhanced refinement, some even calling it "sports car" like in it's track ability. There is NO irony as these are 2 very very different things. |
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08-15-2012, 07:40 PM | #26 |
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This isn't a ZL1 thread but the ZL1 was faster around a track and slower on the strip in most cases. Also faster on the slalom and higher cornering numbers, so it did put up some numbers that were better. In this comparison what little we know, the 1LE outperformed the Boss.
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08-15-2012, 08:12 PM | #27 |
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Automobile writes like this. It is their MO to write opinions rather than focus on hard numbers.
I do understand what they mean about the difference. It takes more skill to drive the Boss 302 fast. And that wild streak the Mustangs have can be fun. But day in and day the more competent car holds up over time. Still, I'd like one of each.
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Simply put; The GT500 posted better numbers yet offered a "less" confidence inspiring ride than the ZL1. The Boss did "not" outperform the 1LE and also provided a "less" confidence inspiring ride than the 1LE.
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