10-26-2011, 05:12 PM | #15 |
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I fixed this problem by trading in my 2010 Camaro for a 2011 SS with the revised strut towers. Been over every road surface that used to make my 2010 sound like it was falling apart and not a single issue with the 2011. GM wouldn't have redesigned the strut towers if there wasn't a problem with the initial design used in the 2010.
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10-26-2011, 05:36 PM | #16 | |
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10-26-2011, 11:06 PM | #19 | |
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So, you are saying these are the same? 2010 to mid-2011: Mid-2011+:
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10-26-2011, 11:25 PM | #20 | |
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The reason for the changes in the towers revolved around the development of the Vert. The Vert introduced the strut tower bar, the under chassis braces and revised sub-frame bushes. The strut assembly has not changed It still uses a reataining plate to keep it in the car when lifted or airborne. The strut reatining plate still articulates. The strut retaining plate rubber still leaves a 'wear' mark underneath it. Short answer -- yes the mount is unchanged |
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10-27-2011, 11:03 AM | #21 | |
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I personally have done between 50 to 60 ZETA suspensions over the last four years. More than a few were making front end noises when I became involved. Aside from the strut hydraulic whoosh, they have all been resolved. I am not aware of any design flaw and don't feel there is one. That doesn't make me right. A bad bush here, a ball joint there, failed endlink, loose CA, ball stud, endlink, RA nut, sway bar strap nut do not combine to define a design flaw. I have yet to see a failed Camaro strut / mount bearing plate, though I have seen quite a few in the G8. That is why the mount was redesigned for the Camaro. The G8 mount was a carry over from the Holden Monaro and long over due for an update. By now you know I call it like I see it. I don't believe the redesign of the towers has anything to do with the noises that have been reported in this thread and others. Once again, that does not make me right. It is just what I have seen first hand and my Dealers report to me. |
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10-27-2011, 11:29 AM | #22 |
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Just did a scan back through the main suspension noise thread...and noticed that nearly everyone complaining about these sounds had a 2010 or early 2011 model. Finding it odd that this issue has died down for the most part and no one with a late 2011 or 2012 model is complaining of suspension noise.
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I do know that the Camaro strut mount is designed with a bias toward performance and durability at the expense, to a degree, in Noise, Vibration and Harshness (NVH). Given the performance numbers we achieve in our Pedderised Camaros and the Ring time of the ZL1 they gave done very good job. None of that addresses the pain in the but noise some experience. My frustration is I really believe our process works from replacing the upper insulator to making sure everything is tight.
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11-01-2011, 01:36 AM | #28 |
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The pop/thump sounds may have something to do with the gap between the top strut retainer and the strut tower. My experience was, when I jacked the front up I would sometimes hear a mysterious thump or two. Couldn't find anything loose but I noticed that the gap between the strut tower and retainer was not there with the front jacked up. Trying to find out if this gap was normal, I ran into this thread...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=toilet+mod |
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