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GretchenGotGrowl · 06-23-2012, 01:25 PM

Okay, we've sent a lot of logs to Vince for idle, low load, revving and it looks like we are still a bit rich down at idle and the fuel trims on the passanger side are off. However, we decided to do a pull and it looks like we are probably going to be fine at WOT. We went lean up top but still made almost 450 HP. The torque curve is even flatter than we've seen in the past so I think at this level of boost with the AFR tweaked we should be real close to what Rhino was saying. Don't think I want to take it much higher than that not knowing what the crank can handle. I've made so many drivetrain changes at this point I'm not sure how much I'm losing there. If I went from 20% to 22% or more loss then 500 RWHP will be getting dangerously close to 650 at the crank.

V6owner · 06-23-2012, 01:26 PM

Oh wow that's badass man!

Rhino79 · 06-23-2012, 02:28 PM

Here is a teaser graph....lol. This thing is going to be a brute with some more fuel!

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-23-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79

Here is a teaser graph....lol. This thing is going to be a brute with some more fuel!

No image is the best tease of them all!

smoke1lt · 06-23-2012, 02:51 PM

Gretchen this is awesome.Almost there to 500 hp to the wheels.You have put alot of time,money and effort to get there.Good luck

SIXJAK · 06-23-2012, 03:27 PM

Gretchen, I know your FI is obviously different than what mine will be but is your tune going to help with mine? I have ordered the HPFP as part of my kit as well as the overdrive pulley and will be running 8+#'s of boost. Sorry I'm such a noob...

Can't_C_Me · 06-23-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

Gretchen, I know your FI is obviously different than what mine will be but is your tune going to help with mine? I have ordered the HPFP as part of my kit as well as the overdrive pulley and will be running 8+#'s of boost. Sorry I'm such a noob...

A SC kit and a TT kit boost won't equal the same HP. But Vince can use what he has found and tweak the SC kit in certain areas for sure.

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SC2150 · 06-23-2012, 03:55 PM

Vince has updated all based on Gretchens today so you will have the latest.

Also, with the knock sensors adjusted the graph looks smooth. Vince is still working on the HPDI pump as well.

Can you say, "Worlds most powerful LLT" ?

Can't_C_Me · 06-23-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Vince has updated all based on Gretchens today so you will have the latest.

Also, with the knock sensors adjusted the graph looks smooth. Vince is still working on the HPDI pump as well.

Can you say, "Worlds most powerful LLT" ?

Can't wait to get this update.

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SIXJAK · 06-23-2012, 04:40 PM

Cool I don't see why we can't get a SC'd LT running 10#'s of boost up over the 400RWHP hurdle.

Rhino79 · 06-23-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Vince has updated all based on Gretchens today so you will have the latest.

Also, with the knock sensors adjusted the graph looks smooth. Vince is still working on the HPDI pump as well.

Can you say, "Worlds most powerful LLT" ?

I want to say thanks to Vince, Tracy, and "Gretchen". Its been fun being part of something that will open the doors for a lot of v6 guys. Vince has sent me an update for the last pull I made, but I was out of juice....lol, I have been in 100 degree heat with horrible humidity fighting this beast, so I packed it in until monday. Mid 400s on 8lbs and no meth is no joke at all!

So far the fuel pump hasn't given us any run-ability issues after having a couple codes wiped for "high pressure". Once the Maf tube arrives, we should be able to get much closer!

I had to dyno my car before I left just to see how much weaker it is than the v6, all I can say is time for a cam.......I feel underpowered with only 389 rwhp and 385 tq......lol.

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-23-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79

I want to say thanks to Vince, Tracy, and "Gretchen". Its been fun being part of something that will open the doors for a lot of v6 guys. Vince has sent me an update for the last pull I made, but I was out of juice....lol, I have been in 100 degree heat with horrible humidity fighting this beast, so I packed it in until monday. Mid 400s on 8lbs and no meth is no joke at all!

So far the fuel pump hasn't given us any run-ability issues after having a couple codes wiped for "high pressure". Once the Maf tube arrives, we should be able to get much closer!

I had to dyno my car before I left just to see how much weaker it is than the v6, all I can say is time for a cam.......I feel underpowered with only 389 rwhp and 385 tq......lol.

Thanks for all your help Rhino. I think we'll lick this next week.

BTW, looks like you were right on the TC for your car. Those are excellent numbers.

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-24-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

Gretchen, I know your FI is obviously different than what mine will be but is your tune going to help with mine? I have ordered the HPFP as part of my kit as well as the overdrive pulley and will be running 8+#'s of boost. Sorry I'm such a noob...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me

A SC kit and a TT kit boost won't equal the same HP. But Vince can use what he has found and tweak the SC kit in certain areas for sure.

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What Cisco said. You guys will be getting some of the tweaks we made. Mostly it will be the fuel pump changes. One change we made to the PE was just a bandaid. Once we get the new intake tube installed and the MAF rescaled that will probably come out of the tune (it is a bit risky, especailly for you guys up north where it can get real cold).

SIXJAK · 06-24-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

What Cisco said. You guys will be getting some of the tweaks we made. Mostly it will be the fuel pump changes. One change we made to the PE was just a bandaid. Once we get the new intake tube installed and the MAF rescaled that will probably come out of the tune (it is a bit risky, especailly for you guys up north where it can get real cold).

This is fantastic. When you say PE however, what are you referring to?

06-23-2012, 01:25 PM	#15
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Okay, we've sent a lot of logs to Vince for idle, low load, revving and it looks like we are still a bit rich down at idle and the fuel trims on the passanger side are off. However, we decided to do a pull and it looks like we are probably going to be fine at WOT. We went lean up top but still made almost 450 HP. The torque curve is even flatter than we've seen in the past so I think at this level of boost with the AFR tweaked we should be real close to what Rhino was saying. Don't think I want to take it much higher than that not knowing what the crank can handle. I've made so many drivetrain changes at this point I'm not sure how much I'm losing there. If I went from 20% to 22% or more loss then 500 RWHP will be getting dangerously close to 650 at the crank. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

06-23-2012, 01:26 PM	#16
V6owner Cedar Creek Woodshop Drives: One Badass 1LE Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rosenberg, TX Posts: 2,227 View My Garage	Oh wow that's badass man! __________________ 2014 Black 2SS/RS 1LE

06-23-2012, 02:28 PM	#17
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Here is a teaser graph....lol. This thing is going to be a brute with some more fuel! Last edited by Rhino79; 06-23-2012 at 03:24 PM.

06-23-2012, 02:51 PM	#19
smoke1lt Drives: 2011 1lt/rs/sim Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pa Posts: 372	Gretchen this is awesome.Almost there to 500 hp to the wheels.You have put alot of time,money and effort to get there.Good luck __________________ RX-SUPERCHARGED/RX SUPER CHILLER/RX TB/RX PORTED IM/BLACK ICE-OLATER/BBK LT HEADERS/HFC/ARK-DTS CATBACK/EIBACH SPRINGS AND SWAYBARS/ORION SUBS AND AMPS...next mods RX od pulley ,3.91 gears

06-23-2012, 03:27 PM	#20
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	Gretchen, I know your FI is obviously different than what mine will be but is your tune going to help with mine? I have ordered the HPFP as part of my kit as well as the overdrive pulley and will be running 8+#'s of boost. Sorry I'm such a noob... __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.

06-23-2012, 03:55 PM	#22
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Vince has updated all based on Gretchens today so you will have the latest. Also, with the knock sensors adjusted the graph looks smooth. Vince is still working on the HPDI pump as well. Can you say, "Worlds most powerful LLT" ?

06-23-2012, 04:40 PM	#24
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	Cool I don't see why we can't get a SC'd LT running 10#'s of boost up over the 400RWHP hurdle. __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges. Last edited by SIXJAK; 06-23-2012 at 06:26 PM.