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trewyn15 · 11-27-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

Speaking of v6 mustangs. Wonder how they will turn out if ford really gets rid of the live axle in 2015. As for the v6 muscle cars, camaro takes it.

I've heard plenty of people saying they like a V6 mustang more than the V6 camaro.

Personally I'm a big fan of buying a 'muscle' car and getting the V8 no matter what, but that's not everyone's beliefs.

Mazzoni1 · 11-27-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trewyn15

I've heard plenty of people saying they like a V6 mustang more than the V6 camaro.

Personally I'm a big fan of buying a 'muscle' car and getting the V8 no matter what, but that's not everyone's beliefs.

It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.

Stew · 11-27-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.

Oh boy, stock for stock, the 2005-2010 Mustang GT is quicker than a stock Camaro V6 with equal drivers by a decent margin, a 99-04 Mustng GT is a good race.

Mazzoni1 · 11-27-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

Oh boy, stock for stock, the 2005-2010 Mustang GT is quicker than a stock Camaro V6 with equal drivers by a decent margin, a 99-04 Mustng GT is a good race.

My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp

Stew · 11-27-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp

You beat a driver., they have more torque and are lighter. As I said, equal drivers, Mustang gets the win. 2010 GTs were capable of mid 13s.

Mazzoni1 · 11-27-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

You beat a driver., they have more torque and are lighter. As I said, equal drivers, Mustang gets the win. 2010 GTs were capable of mid 13s.

2010 should win. 2009 GTs are running 300 hp with the smart 4.6 ontop of that the torque is killed by their heavy live axle. Every camaro I've seen race a mustang wins off the line because of that. Rolling live axle is great. Dead stop, not so much.

trewyn15 · 11-27-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.

Completely understandable

DarkneSS · 11-27-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

+1

What happened to Hyundai's being the cheapest in their class ? They are now the most expensive.

New marketing strat I guess. While they aren't bad cars anymore, I think they are still a bit over priced.

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Yep..its mostly about the looks. Thank goodness GM nailed the styling else we'd be seeing the Camaro go bye bye again.

If the Camaro weighed what it should weigh (A V6 in the 3,400 to 3,500 lb or less range.) it would be putting the Mustang V6 in its place and running right a long side the new Genesis.

The LFX has amazing potential..with the ability to add somewhere around 40+ HP with just a tune and an intake/exhaust, that would be killer in a 3,400 lb car.

Hopefully the 6th gen will take us there.

+ The LLt and LFX are great engines. Nissan's VQ was considered one of the best V6 engines ever made and made Ward's top ten list a lot. It was 3.5 liters and only made 255. Even with every bolt on imaginable you could barely make 300 crank EST.

A 3.6L making 312 is great and bolt ons can net you conservatively around 330 Hp. Very impressive...

We just need to get that weight down.

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

Seriously. The 2.0T and 3.8 are nearly the same price. Personally, I don't like the look and if you talk about the 2.0T, slow as a sloth. Such bad throttle response in that. The 3.8 is better, but I feel like had chevy made camaros lighter (if it was possible or not idk) the camaro would be much faster. I do think GM needs to kick it up a notch in the V6 though. All these other v6s are getting beefy each year.

Agreed but don't get it twisted, the 2010 V6 Camaros were one of the fastest new cars you could buy for the money when they first came out. Everyone has caught up...

When they came out, don't forget the V6 Stang had 200 HP LOL and it was and still is a driver's race with the pre 5.0 GTs.

Mazzoni1 · 11-27-2012, 06:56 PM

Yeah my point exactly though. As for v6's the Genesis is the fastest (aside from a gtr and what not) but looks I still give it to the camaro.

C5RocksC5 · 11-27-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.

_Nick_ · 11-27-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp

Yeah? That dude needed a driver mod then.

The cars are lighter with more torque, they should be faster. HP isn't everything.

Mazzoni1 · 11-27-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by _Nick_

Yeah? That dude needed a driver mod then.

The cars are lighter with more torque, they should be faster. HP isn't everything.

Neither is torque. And they're both automatics. Press the peddle and go.

DarkneSS · 11-27-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazzoni1

Neither is torque. And they're both automatics. Press the peddle and go.

Torque is generally a more accurate measurement of the power of a gasoline engine and is the more important number.

Stingray · 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM

Stock and equal driving skills, the 5th gen Mustang GT (4.6L) should be able to beat out a 5th gen Camaro (V6 - LLT or LFX). Note: the 2005-2009 GTs had 300hp + 320tq while the 2010 GT had 315hp + 325tq. That torque advantage is key and surely helps the GT.

Back to topic... even though the 3.8L Genesis may perform better, I'd still take a Camaro V6 over any of the Genesis variants anyday anytime. The Camaro styling IMO wins hands down even when compared to the restyled 2013 Genesis models.

11-27-2012, 06:56 PM	#23
Mazzoni1 Drives: 2010 1lt Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States Posts: 90 View My Garage	Yeah my point exactly though. As for v6's the Genesis is the fastest (aside from a gtr and what not) but looks I still give it to the camaro.

11-27-2012, 08:55 PM	#28
Stingray just can't get enough Drives: a bunch of fast toys... Join Date: May 2012 Location: SoFla Posts: 3,598 View My Garage	Stock and equal driving skills, the 5th gen Mustang GT (4.6L) should be able to beat out a 5th gen Camaro (V6 - LLT or LFX). Note: the 2005-2009 GTs had 300hp + 320tq while the 2010 GT had 315hp + 325tq. That torque advantage is key and surely helps the GT. Back to topic... even though the 3.8L Genesis may perform better, I'd still take a Camaro V6 over any of the Genesis variants anyday anytime. The Camaro styling IMO wins hands down even when compared to the restyled 2013 Genesis models.