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1JEWLDSSRS · 03-21-2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

If you have any kind of modded exhaust, you can use the paddles, let off the gas between gears and make it ‘sound’ like you pushed in a clutch. Of course, I never do this because it would be so lame.

(I do it a lot)

And when you have the Corsa and do this^^^ it really gets some attention!!! lol..

1JEWLDSSRS · 03-21-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

You nailed it. Mine wanted the auto so she could drive. She drive it twice when it was stock. Now shes scared and wont lol

lol. You know what's gonna happen, when and if she ever does decide to drive it after all the mods, and realizes how much fun and excitement it is to drive, and not be afraid of it, and not to mention how EASY it will be to drive, you will never get her out of it!!! hehe..

Modernmusclecar · 03-21-2021, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Hey guys. When using my padal shifter in manual mode, i run out 1st gear and it automatically shifts to 2nd then a quick jump to 3rd. This doesn seem right. Is this something in my tune or just another nanny control built in? There has to be a way to truly shift the car in manual mode when i want it to shift, right?

I have never noticed my car do that do that. It hits the limiter and thats it. It should not be upshifting in manual mode to the next gear. And ive bounced off the limiter many times over the years while getting caught up in street stuff. Not sure what you guys are saying but it doesnt upshift when hitting the limiter. Are you sure youre not confusing the moment you hit the limiter you are shifting up.

BLU DUCE · 03-21-2021, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Hey guys. When using my padal shifter in manual mode, i run out 1st gear and it automatically shifts to 2nd then a quick jump to 3rd. This doesn seem right. Is this something in my tune or just another nanny control built in? There has to be a way to truly shift the car in manual mode when i want it to shift, right?

Do you run in drive,manual or sport mode. I always run in sport mode and use my paddles for shifting.

gunchamp · 03-21-2021, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

I have never noticed my car do that do that. It hits the limiter and thats it. It should not be upshifting in manual mode to the next gear. And ive bounced off the limiter many times over the years while getting caught up in street stuff. Not sure what you guys are saying but it doesnt upshift when hitting the limiter. Are you sure youre not confusing the moment you hit the limiter you are shifting up.

Running in manual (m) on the shifter and it most certainly will not hold a gear. If i punch it, it up shifts on its own and does this weird shit like pretty much bailing on 2nd and limping into 3rd. Would be awful in a race

gunchamp · 03-21-2021, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BLU DUCE

Do you run in drive,manual or sport mode. I always run in sport mode and use my paddles for shifting.

I always hold down the traction button for 10 sec to turn off the nannies, then shift to M and use the paddles. It will still shift on its own and their is too much delay with the paddles to even warrant using them at this point

gunchamp · 03-21-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

lol. You know what's gonna happen, when and if she ever does decide to drive it after all the mods, and realizes how much fun and excitement it is to drive, and not be afraid of it, and not to mention how EASY it will be to drive, you will never get her out of it!!! hehe..

Youre probably right lol. Its so loud and aggressive though, she seems a little intimidated. Blower will be going on this year as well so its only going to get more interesting

Moto-Mojo · 03-21-2021, 08:39 PM

I ran a Dynosteve ‘aggressive tune’ for a bit and lost a TC. It started doing all kinds of weird shifting patterns. Made no sense. Not saying that’s the issue but a bad TC must affect the trans computer.

gunchamp · 03-21-2021, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

I ran a Dynosteve ‘aggressive tune’ for a bit and lost a TC. It started doing all kinds of weird shifting patterns. Made no sense. Not saying that’s the issue but a bad TC must affect the trans computer.

Car is tuned by Ryan@gpi though hp tuners. It doesnt seem the trans has an issue. Its just manual mode really isnt that. It still shifts on its own. Like if i manual paddle down to 1st then pull out and hammer it, it will run like a bat out of hell then shift before im ready amd then quickly go through second and dump into 3rd

InFiD3ViL · 03-21-2021, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Car is tuned by Ryan@gpi though hp tuners. It doesnt seem the trans has an issue. Its just manual mode really isnt that. It still shifts on its own. Like if i manual paddle down to 1st then pull out and hammer it, it will run like a bat out of hell then shift before im ready amd then quickly go through second and dump into 3rd

Yeah, something is not right man. I'm also tuned by Ryan and use my paddles like 99% of the time and that never happens. It will never shift on it's own in manual mode.

I would email Ryan and let him know what's going on. Maybe he forgot to change something in the settings. If it wasn't for the fact that you have a convertor I would send you my tune file and have compare the TCM settings to yours. Maybe someone else here with a GPI tune and convertor can do that. Of course some settings will be different between cars, but anything wildly off may jump out at you.

All that said, I am pretty sure there is something in HP Tuners that allows you to set auto shifts while in manual mode, in the TUTD settings. This could be used to prevent hitting the rev limiter while in TapShift mode. I am just not sure how it works. So maybe he still has some values in those cells.

GAD · 03-22-2021, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Car is tuned by Ryan@gpi though hp tuners. It doesnt seem the trans has an issue. Its just manual mode really isnt that. It still shifts on its own. Like if i manual paddle down to 1st then pull out and hammer it, it will run like a bat out of hell then shift before im ready amd then quickly go through second and dump into 3rd

I run mine 100% of the time in manual mode. Never had it auto shift. It’s at the tuner right now and one of the things I ask (if possible) was to add an auto shift at redline when I’m in manual mode. I always slam the Rev limiter when shifting because of the delay.

Modernmusclecar · 03-22-2021, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Running in manual (m) on the shifter and it most certainly will not hold a gear. If i punch it, it up shifts on its own and does this weird shit like pretty much bailing on 2nd and limping into 3rd. Would be awful in a race

Ya whenever I was engaged in some action I would downshift with the paddles and then hit the limiter in all the excitement and bog...race over. There's a few people out there thinking they outan me but it was my own fault. Now I take my time...downshuSt to the right gear...once I punch it I slip it into D and let it work. Much better results

mikeinmobile · 03-22-2021, 02:13 AM

Couple of things here. When I first got mine I wanted to get a feel for what she would or wouldn't do so on several occasions I spun her around in manual 1st gear and one time in particular I 180'ed around and did a high reving super burnout and she stayed in first every time. As many burnouts as I've done in 230,000 miles mine's never auto shifted in manual.

Mine def does the funky 1st to 2nd manual shift, I don't like it. Biggest prob w/leaving it in drive is the 2nd gear start off the line. Does comp mode start in 1st or do you still have to manual shift to be in 1st. I bought her new so she hasn't been tuned.

AlanRubin · 03-22-2021, 02:55 AM

Most cars today are programmed to up-shift at the RPM limiter, regardless of what
gear you are in.

The paddles also have a delay in up-shifting, but is quick with the down-shifting. I
have yet to read any recommendations or methods to remedy the up-shift time from
when you press it, to when it up-shifts. There has always been a delay.

Tuner only has a firmness option, but not a response to paddles option.

The car will start out in 1 or 2, and is selected by you.

03-21-2021, 08:39 PM	#22
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,989	I ran a Dynosteve ‘aggressive tune’ for a bit and lost a TC. It started doing all kinds of weird shifting patterns. Made no sense. Not saying that’s the issue but a bad TC must affect the trans computer. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

03-22-2021, 02:13 AM	#27
mikeinmobile Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 493 View My Garage	Couple of things here. When I first got mine I wanted to get a feel for what she would or wouldn't do so on several occasions I spun her around in manual 1st gear and one time in particular I 180'ed around and did a high reving super burnout and she stayed in first every time. As many burnouts as I've done in 230,000 miles mine's never auto shifted in manual. Mine def does the funky 1st to 2nd manual shift, I don't like it. Biggest prob w/leaving it in drive is the 2nd gear start off the line. Does comp mode start in 1st or do you still have to manual shift to be in 1st. I bought her new so she hasn't been tuned. __________________

03-22-2021, 02:55 AM	#28
AlanRubin Banned Drives: 2010 LS Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Pgh Posts: 411	Most cars today are programmed to up-shift at the RPM limiter, regardless of what gear you are in. The paddles also have a delay in up-shifting, but is quick with the down-shifting. I have yet to read any recommendations or methods to remedy the up-shift time from when you press it, to when it up-shifts. There has always been a delay. Tuner only has a firmness option, but not a response to paddles option. The car will start out in 1 or 2, and is selected by you.