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Entaille · 09-14-2010, 03:24 AM

Had I known how afm really worked, I would have bought a manual. This needs to be toggle on/off capable.

cmore · 09-20-2010, 03:56 PM

Wondering why those 13 that voted for liking AFM, did so. Possible better gas mileage or don't notice it operating?

Only about 16% like it and of those 2 appear to not be driving a Camaro SS . And some of those who don't will or have disabled it even tho it invalidates the warranty.

x626xBlack · 09-20-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEo

29 is posible for the A6 sir!

I have the LS3 and I get 22 - 24 hwy and 17 - 20 city MPG

Heres a pic of my AFE

Attachment 163858

Sorry for the poor quality I took the picture from my iPhone

I am with the group that never notices it...

As far as that pic. I can post one tomorrow with 58 on it if you like....
Also I have the A6 and 29 is not possible unless you are going down hill or hit the reset and coast...

myold88 · 09-20-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEo

29 is posible for the A6 sir!

I have the LS3 and I get 22 - 24 hwy and 17 - 20 city MPG

Heres a pic of my AFE

Attachment 163858

Sorry for the poor quality I took the picture from my iPhone

swansor stated he gets 29 MPG on the highway. I said I don't think so.
Not to jack this thread but I'll say it again, I don't think so. I came back from Boston (sox game) PM last light, and on I-90 between 70 & 75 MPH I averaged 25.1 MPG- An all time high for my 8800 mile 2SS A6. When I got my car last year the best I could do was 22.4 MPG with the cruise set @ 70 MPH for one hour. Again, sorry for the jack.

greenrail · 09-21-2010, 11:14 AM

Geez, I was able to sustain just under 24 mpg on a recent trip my wife and I took with Rosie a couple of weeks ago. This was a five state cruise mostly interstate and some extensive city driving. So, I wouldn't discount higher mpg numbers with a light gas pedal use en route. (And Yes I realize, it isn't comparable to my LS3 - Manual) But in the end, if I had to drive this car every day for work, I would have an L99 Auto.

Now, about the AFM deal, you gotta ask yourself whether or not you would rather pay a hefty Gas Guzzler tax when you buy the car. I recently looked at a Challenger SRT8 and fell over when I saw the $1700 guzzler tax and a hwy rating of 19 mpg. All I could say was ouch!!!!!

Not sure why one would feel "embarassed" by the sound of their exhaust. Never paid much attention to that when I am going 65 mph. Someone running next to your car making faces at the sound???????

JimClint3 · 09-21-2010, 11:19 AM

Tuned mine out under 65mph, I like it that way for freeway driving~72-75mph

cmore · 09-21-2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenrail

Geez, I was able to sustain just under 24 mpg on a recent trip my wife and I took with Rosie a couple of weeks ago. This was a five state cruise mostly interstate and some extensive city driving. So, I wouldn't discount higher mpg numbers with a light gas pedal use en route. (And Yes I realize, it isn't comparable to my LS3 - Manual) But in the end, if I had to drive this car every day for work, I would have an L99 Auto.

Now, about the AFM deal, you gotta ask yourself whether or not you would rather pay a hefty Gas Guzzler tax when you buy the car. I recently looked at a Challenger SRT8 and fell over when I saw the $1700 guzzler tax and a hwy rating of 19 mpg. All I could say was ouch!!!!!

Not sure why one would feel "embarassed" by the sound of their exhaust. Never paid much attention to that when I am going 65 mph. Someone running next to your car making faces at the sound???????

Not convinced that AFM would cause the MPG to drop below 19 or what ever the threshold is.

We also lost 25hp because of the Auto.

brantley847 · 09-21-2010, 03:29 PM

AFM is not terrible when everything is stock, but at times it does feel sluggish. Even with an axleback exhaust I notice it now, but that problem goes away when I blare my music the way I do...

I will hold off on the tune until I get headers...knock it out during the dyno tune I suppose..

I guess it is a great concept if it had been done a little more precise with less issues...or only activating above 50-60 mph...but again, didn't notice it when I was stock as far as sound goes..

2010BumbleBee · 09-21-2010, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entaille

Had I known how afm really worked, I would have bought a manual. This needs to be toggle on/off capable.

mbrusco103 · 09-22-2010, 02:47 AM

i never noticed it untill i installed a Borla s-type catback
i love the sound of the exhaust but when AFM Kicks in

eventually i plan on having it tuned out

BUMBLE B · 09-22-2010, 03:01 AM

AFM has to go or at least have a turn off switch. I can feel it kicking on and of around town. At 35MPH, if I give the car a little gas, it actually slows down 1 MPH...sort of like an older carburator car with too big a carb on it. I do get 26.1 MPG at 70MPH on the flat Florida highways....but this goes down to 12 MPG in the city....with easy driving. Not what I got the car for.

View Poll Results: How do u feel about AFM?
Like it.	20	16.67%
Would buy a Std Trans if can not get the Auto w/o AFM	9	7.50%
Given the choice of w/AFM or w/out would choose w/out	46	38.33%
Given the choice of w/AFM or w/out would choose with	3	2.50%
W/out a choice would/will pay extra to have it removed	5	4.17%
Have removed AFM and like it.	19	15.83%
Have removed AFM and wish u hadn't	0	0%
Have or will tune it out, even if no power train Warranty	18	15.00%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

09-21-2010, 11:14 AM	#33
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	Geez, I was able to sustain just under 24 mpg on a recent trip my wife and I took with Rosie a couple of weeks ago. This was a five state cruise mostly interstate and some extensive city driving. So, I wouldn't discount higher mpg numbers with a light gas pedal use en route. (And Yes I realize, it isn't comparable to my LS3 - Manual) But in the end, if I had to drive this car every day for work, I would have an L99 Auto. Now, about the AFM deal, you gotta ask yourself whether or not you would rather pay a hefty Gas Guzzler tax when you buy the car. I recently looked at a Challenger SRT8 and fell over when I saw the $1700 guzzler tax and a hwy rating of 19 mpg. All I could say was ouch!!!!! Not sure why one would feel "embarassed" by the sound of their exhaust. Never paid much attention to that when I am going 65 mph. Someone running next to your car making faces at the sound??????? __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

09-21-2010, 03:29 PM	#36
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,585	AFM is not terrible when everything is stock, but at times it does feel sluggish. Even with an axleback exhaust I notice it now, but that problem goes away when I blare my music the way I do... I will hold off on the tune until I get headers...knock it out during the dyno tune I suppose.. I guess it is a great concept if it had been done a little more precise with less issues...or only activating above 50-60 mph...but again, didn't notice it when I was stock as far as sound goes.. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

09-22-2010, 02:47 AM	#38
mbrusco103 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS (M6) 427 Twin Turbo Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,090 View My Garage	i never noticed it untill i installed a Borla s-type catback i love the sound of the exhaust but when AFM Kicks in eventually i plan on having it tuned out __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS ERL 427 M6 TT -AGP Twin Turbo 55/57 .83ar \| ERL 427ci \| Squash Fuel System \| Stainless Works Chambered 3" \| Mcleod RXT \| Factory Hurst Short Throw \| Black Forgestar F14s \| CTS V 6 Piston Brembo \| VIS AMS Carbon Fiber Hood \| Anvil Carbon Fiber Spoiler

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09-14-2010, 03:24 AM	#29
Entaille Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lake Stevens Posts: 1,005	Had I known how afm really worked, I would have bought a manual. This needs to be toggle on/off capable.

09-20-2010, 03:56 PM	#30
cmore Drives: 2011 Victory Red Auto 2SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Tn Posts: 628	Wondering why those 13 that voted for liking AFM, did so. Possible better gas mileage or don't notice it operating? Only about 16% like it and of those 2 appear to not be driving a Camaro SS . And some of those who don't will or have disabled it even tho it invalidates the warranty.

09-21-2010, 11:19 AM	#34
JimClint3 Drives: 2010 1SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hamburg, NY 14075 Posts: 16 View My Garage	Tuned mine out under 65mph, I like it that way for freeway driving~72-75mph

09-22-2010, 03:01 AM	#39
BUMBLE B Drives: 99 Z28 CONV and 2010 SS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ORLANDO Posts: 54	AFM has to go or at least have a turn off switch. I can feel it kicking on and of around town. At 35MPH, if I give the car a little gas, it actually slows down 1 MPH...sort of like an older carburator car with too big a carb on it. I do get 26.1 MPG at 70MPH on the flat Florida highways....but this goes down to 12 MPG in the city....with easy driving. Not what I got the car for.