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Old 03-17-2013, 11:14 PM   #15
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you need these solid mounts...no more cheap rubber bushing

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Old 03-17-2013, 11:23 PM   #16
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:51 AM   #17
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If the system detects even a tiny bit of slip, usually it'll clamp down that one brake momentarily and the yaw produced gives you the "loose butt" feeling.
I'll bet anything it's just a little slip
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:13 AM   #18
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Please elaborate. Your OP makes you sound like a noob who has never driven a high HP RWD car.
69 427 435 HP 4:11 rear end and a lotta shit since then, noob my ass
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:17 AM   #19
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Again to get back to topic it is not between pavement and tires it's between suspension and car trust me I know the diference.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:22 AM   #20
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Thats it the Youtube video answerd all my questions thats exactly what I feel moving gotta fix it. Thanks again great video alot has changed since 1969 ah maybe not torgue is still torque.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:32 AM   #21
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interesting video, but what does it mean to the driver? I mean does it make the car stickier / improve handling? Is comfort improved, or sacrificed? etc.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:48 AM   #22
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Thats it the Youtube video answerd all my questions thats exactly what I feel moving gotta fix it. Thanks again great video alot has changed since 1969 ah maybe not torgue is still torque.
ya they made all the bushings squishy from factory. i linked you the solid aluminum bushings i got for the rear and they work.

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interesting video, but what does it mean to the driver? I mean does it make the car stickier / improve handling? Is comfort improved, or sacrificed? etc.
makes rear end more solid and predictable. no increase in harshness or noise in the ones i linked. helps keep your suspension geometry where it is supposed to be and makes car better with zero sacrifice.
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I need to get it on the lift and have the dealer check it. No have not tried it without traction control but I can feel when the tires are breaking loose. this seems to me like the rubber atachment points on the back suspension maybe I'm crazy.

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ya they made all the bushings squishy from factory. i linked you the solid aluminum bushings i got for the rear and they work.



makes rear end more solid and predictable. no increase in harshness or noise in the ones i linked. helps keep your suspension geometry where it is supposed to be and makes car better with zero sacrifice.
Cool, but in the video the bushings are not the only parts that were changed. Do we need to change all those parts to get that result? Did they replace other parts that don't show in the frame? There are lots of rear suspension parts on the vendor website, some (like the arms) you can clearly see are also replaced in the video, while other parts would be out of frame.
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You're in Boston....if you are driving when it's under 45 Degrees on the stock Pirelli P-Zero tires (summer, ultra high performance design and compound) the rear end isn't going to be nearly as planted to the road as it would with a nice all season tire.
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I have the Pfadt trailing arms, toe arms, drop springs, sway bars and end links in my car. I opted for a poly subframe bushing instead of the solid ones. Together they make the car feel very solid. Any movement in the rear of the car under heavy throttle is just driver related now.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:09 PM   #27
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You're in Boston....if you are driving when it's under 45 Degrees on the stock Pirelli P-Zero tires (summer, ultra high performance design and compound) the rear end isn't going to be nearly as planted to the road as it would with a nice all season tire.
I would think the more hooked up the tire is the more I can feel it. I have played on damp pavement with traction control off and the tires just spin car fishtails around but I don.t feel the squirm in that situation. When its hooked up I feel the bushings flexing I know that now.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:12 PM   #28
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Cool, but in the video the bushings are not the only parts that were changed. Do we need to change all those parts to get that result? Did they replace other parts that don't show in the frame? There are lots of rear suspension parts on the vendor website, some (like the arms) you can clearly see are also replaced in the video, while other parts would be out of frame.
yes there are other things replaced in video....but its not the point of the vid. you see how much just that one bushing moves. and how much the solid aluminum basically replacing the bushing and just bolting the rear to the car...
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