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Old 10-18-2011, 05:37 PM   #29
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Im leaning toward century 6l build and will explore th400 too but im done with 4l80e as of now
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:48 PM   #31
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I have full confidence in the 6L80 and believe it is a step backwards to go to a 4L80.

I have one on the bench getting all the good stuff and 30 years Auto Trans experience going in.

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Old 10-18-2011, 06:09 PM   #32
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It's my understanding that the 6L80 pulls each gears clutch out then engages the next gears clutch to switch gears while the 4L80 stacks each gears clutch allowing the car to stay in boost and shift quicker. I had a built (by ARD) 6L80 and now I have a built, full manual shift 4L80 and I can't imagine going back. The 4L80 shifts noticeably quicker and you also have on less shift in the quarter mile. The lockup torque converter that you can get with the 4L80 is also nice but I'm not sure that you cannot get one with the 6L80 (I just have never heard of one).
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:59 PM   #33
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from my understanding the 4l80 is just a electronic th400, how can this be bad or a dwngrade..no disrespect, but just asking..., also bght a stage 4 jakes for around 5400 shipped, this has everything upgraded...so spend 3200 to upgrade the 6l80 , or sell you 6l80 for 2500 and then spend 1500 more..that leaves you with a bad a#s 4l80 for only 1500 out of pocket...imo
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:02 PM   #34
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anyoneing running the M6 beefed up? Rpm says there are good for at least 850 rwhp.. they have a couple running over 900
only downside , is there a bitch to hook, and hard shock factor on driveline .. imo , if you matched up 2 identical 650rwhp camaro,s.. 1a6 and 1 m6, the a6 will be more consistant and probably beat the m6 everytime..imo
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from my understanding the 4l80 is just a electronic th400, how can this be bad or a dwngrade..no disrespect, but just asking..., also bght a stage 4 jakes for around 5400 shipped, this has everything upgraded...so spend 3200 to upgrade the 6l80 , or sell you 6l80 for 2500 and then spend 1500 more..that leaves you with a bad a#s 4l80 for only 1500 out of pocket...imo

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I have full confidence in the 6L80 and believe it is a step backwards to go to a 4L80.

I have one on the bench getting all the good stuff and 30 years Auto Trans experience going in.

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anyoneing running the M6 beefed up? Rpm says there are good for at least 850 rwhp.. they have a couple running over 900

Tes has a customer making 1000rwhp through a RPM built M6. I would tell you who it is on here but I don't know his screen name this week.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:20 PM   #38
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It's my understanding that the 6L80 pulls each gears clutch out then engages the next gears clutch to switch gears while the 4L80 stacks each gears clutch allowing the car to stay in boost and shift quicker. I had a built (by ARD) 6L80 and now I have a built, full manual shift 4L80 and I can't imagine going back. The 4L80 shifts noticeably quicker and you also have on less shift in the quarter mile. The lockup torque converter that you can get with the 4L80 is also nice but I'm not sure that you cannot get one with the 6L80 (I just have never heard of one).
If the trans is tuned incorrectly, I could see what your saying might hold water, but otherwise, I'm leaning toward incorrect. Maybe your tuner is just more experienced with a less complicated 4l80e and knows how to tune it better than the 6l80e. Look at superchargedss's setup. Stock trans. Quite a few 10 second passes. More power than your making and if figure is car is faster too. His trans is doing just fine. It's all in the tune. Ted must know what he's doing.
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Im leaning toward century 6l build and will explore th400 too but im done with 4l80e as of now

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If the trans is tuned incorrectly, I could see what your saying might hold water, but otherwise, I'm leaning toward incorrect. Maybe your tuner is just more experienced with a less complicated 4l80e and knows how to tune it better than the 6l80e. Look at superchargedss's setup. Stock trans. Quite a few 10 second passes. More power than your making and if figure is car is faster too. His trans is doing just fine. It's all in the tune. Ted must know what he's doing.

It was stock. The trans had an attitude and wasn't shifting right or leaving hard. The 4/5/6 clutch pack was showing signs of wear but nothing every broke. The heat from the trans blanket this summer at the track when the air was 90+ couldn't have helped. Ted has decided to build it the way he wants so it won't be a stock 6L anymore.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:43 PM   #41
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The biggest issue with the 6l80 is the retarded first gear. You can't run a proper converter or rear gear with it without blowing the tires off. It's just too short.
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The biggest issue with the 6l80 is the retarded first gear. You can't run a proper converter or rear gear with it without blowing the tires off. It's just too short.

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