08-31-2012, 11:14 AM | #29 |
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Honestly? it sounds like a lot of you know nothing about what the auto industry has done for this country. General Motors converted all of its production to the Allied war effort and delivered more than $12 billion worth of goods, ranging from airplanes to tanks, marine diesel engines, trucks, machine guns, and shells. No other manufacturer delivered as much material to the Allied forces. Here is a list of the WWII General Motors War Material Production 1940-45:
198,000 Diesel engines for tanks & landing craft 206,000 Airplane engines 13,000 Complete bombers and fighter planes 97,000 Aircraft propellors 301,000 Aircraft gyroscopes 38,000 Tanks, tank destroyers and armored vehicles 854,000 Trucks, including amhibious DUKWs 190,000 Cannons 1,900,000 Machine guns and submachine guns 3,142,000 Carbines 3,826,000 Electric motors 11,111,000 Fuses 360,000,000 Ball and roller bearings 119,562,000 Shells 39,181,000 Cartridge cases Honestly, I would bail them out too. |
08-31-2012, 11:41 AM | #30 |
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Crap, I owe the Government money too.
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08-31-2012, 12:09 PM | #32 |
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08-31-2012, 12:19 PM | #33 |
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Going to clean out the garage this weekend I'll loan them a buck or 2
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08-31-2012, 12:33 PM | #34 |
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I am not saying we should have let GM sink.
Just making sure people are informed when they GM paid back what they owed. Paying taxpayer dollars back with taxpayer dollars, it must be nice. Not to mention the nice tax breaks GM recieved to boot. |
08-31-2012, 06:07 PM | #35 |
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Just curious... Why is it some people seem to be under the impression that the EV development has somehow contributed to keeping Ford afloat...... and is the reason they didn't require bailout?? To my knowledge, (correct me if I am wrong in thinking this way)... the profits and stability of the company from bailout time until present... have very little to do with the EV development. The company has been stable without yet seeing the EV projects come to full fruition to a point where they are turning a profit. If anything, it cost them more during that time, than it made them so far. So, I fail to see it being a factor in why they didn't go under... More of an investment for the future?
EV's were merely work on the side, aiming to keep them advancing technologically and keep them competitive in the long run... Nothing to do with short-term and present financial stability. I'll still never understand why people gotta blindly decide to parade about supporting one or the other. I am happy that I get to enjoy MORE vehicles, because I am not a raging fanatic, blinded by stupidity and shunning other brands because of a logo and desperately wasting my time to seek out reasons to hate them more. I'd rather drool over the best vehicles every company has to offer than wait for one company to make something interesting/new. Some of yall seem hug deprived. And these debates are silly. Two big successful companies with a long history, and a lot of awesome vehicles made. Without one or the other, these cars would be no where near as awesome as they are. Competition alone has inspired constant growth in design and engineering that has propelled vehicles from all brands well beyond what anyone could have dreamed up when these companies first began. Be glad the competition exists. |
08-31-2012, 06:16 PM | #36 | |
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His "trumpeting" as you call it will cause the Camaro fans on this board to respect their favorite brand more, because buying a Camaro in itself is not enough to show that they admire GM enough to buy one. Get it?? |
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08-31-2012, 06:16 PM | #37 |
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6 billion < 132 billion and counting.........
you decide which is the stronger company? As far as paying the government back, they were counting the stocks rise in value as payback, course they dont seem to think that now that the stocks have dropped again that they should now owe the loss factor.....they like to have thier cake and eat it to......stock value should not and does not count as repayment of the loan unless they buy the stock back from the government at the inflated price.....so as long as the government owns stock, they have not payed the loan back period. |
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08-31-2012, 07:04 PM | #41 |
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By the time I'm finished this sentence, the national debt has grown another $1,000,000.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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