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Old 03-27-2024, 08:43 PM   #29
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This throw away society we live in sucks. It is not just vehicles but everything.
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Old 03-28-2024, 08:43 PM   #30
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Mine hit the 12 year mark today, the mileage is 16,526 and it still smells new inside. Only problems been the crappy designed third brake light.

Until somebody picks up where GM left off I would sure keep it garaged and not daily driven. Hell, I don't even let the wife drive it, drive it at night, etc. No plans to sell and fingers crossed it makes it another 12 years.
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Old 03-28-2024, 10:20 PM   #31
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:26 AM   #32
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I’ve not seen where getting aftermarket suspension parts is an issue for 5th gens? Hotchkis, BMR etc. all make great kits for these cars.
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Old 04-06-2024, 07:16 PM   #33
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Old 04-06-2024, 07:59 PM   #34
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I didn't know that GM had a factory Magenta colored Camaro.
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:21 AM   #35
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I didn't know that GM had a factory Magenta colored Camaro.
Yes around 2014 there was deep magenta
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Old 04-07-2024, 10:50 AM   #36
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I didn't know that GM had a factory Magenta colored Camaro.
Yes, one of our gals in the Camaro club had one, and I gotta say, it was a different color!! Not for me though.
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Old 04-11-2024, 08:40 AM   #37
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If the mustang is for you, than crowd surf away! The 5th and 6th gens have a way better starting point suspension wise to begin with anyway. It doesn’t take a ton of stuff to get these cars to stick. There’s no shortage of heavily modified cars here, and mostly stock cars that are still being modified even now. I get what you are saying, but it certainly seems exaggerated to me. I wouldnt trade my Camaro for a mustang ever…. Mega downgrade to me, and most of us left here feel the same I’m sure. It does suck to see a lot of oe parts being dropped but definitely not panic worthy for me.
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Old 04-12-2024, 09:20 AM   #38
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The camaro looks much better than the mustang, the engine is muscle car bliss. But it still does not excuse GMs BS on stopping parts being made.

My main point is that some parts still should be made. Just tell me where there is any aftermarket replacement strut for a 2015 z28. There are not any.
We can agree on this even though I’ve driven several late model mustangs of different flavors and would gladly push one off a cliff before owning it, GM has screwed us here. Never disagreed with that. As for the Z/28 I’d say it’s because they are such a niche market, there only a handful of them, sure the rest of the 5th Gen cars could run them but it’s still a pretty small portion of 5th Gen owners who would be ready to go that route, again just my guess. I’d love to see someone come up with a solution for the Dssv’s and the mag ride ZL1 struts as well.
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Old 04-15-2024, 08:57 PM   #39
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Obama admin changed the 10 year law on OE replacement parts to only require them to build them 5 years
In hindsight I feel this was a move to help the OEs reach the government mandated CAFE standards by letting them cease production and warehouseing of gas vehicles to make the massive switch to electric.
GM could have supported there customers anyway like some of the other OEs are
We get the shaft..
Just my opinion...
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:02 PM   #40
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A U.S. president nor his admin on its own can't just change a law that affects the general public or privately owned companies.

Last I checked, there is NO such "law" or federal mandate concerning run of the mill repair parts be manufactured by nor stored by a car manufacturer. Even during the warranty period. If you disagree, please point me to that CFR that states the contrary. I haven't found one. There may be mandated recall situations where the manufacturer must come up with a new part or something to fix a safety recall or some other one-off situation, but other than that, there's no federal law on the books that I'm aware of concerning how long a manufacturer must supply repair parts.

Generally speaking, the warranty period, if given (not required by law) usually has covered parts being made and stored by the manufacturer to ensure the dealerships can fix cars during the warranty period. Because they do offer warranties, the After that, it's pure luck of the draw, or if there's profit to be made. Demand makes it profitable, as well as some insurance companies who have a dog in the fight, to help reduce costs of insurance by having parts available.

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act covers warranties, not repair parts or production and storage of said parts. Although, it behooves the manufacturer to be able to repair the vehicle if a covered part needs replacing. And they simply have to repair the covered defect in accordance with the warranty. I've looked over most of the MMWA, and it doesn't really discuss repair parts availability.

There's also vendor contracts. If say, some vendor made some parts for GM, and the contract was for 5 years for whatever reason, then, depending on the content, it's very likely GM would have to honor purchasing those parts for 5 years. After that, though, they could be defunct. So there's other forces behind car parts availability. But no federal law.

It all comes down to money. If the parts aren't profitable, then they're likely going away. It costs money for dead stock to sit on the shelves. That's why JIT production methods came to be in the first place. Did you know that some "dead stock" just gets tossed in the dumpsters at parts warehouses? Sometimes they're auctioned off on pallets and such and end up in third party warehouses, but they have been known to take perfectly good parts and toss them. Tax writeoff. No big deal to them.
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