Engine reliability 2010 V6 2lt RS camaro

[gringo]

Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

I love how you just pull numbers out of your ass.

Okay, what are the "real" numbers then, Gomer? Okay, I get it now. The L99 is low to mid 12's and the LS3 is 12 flat. The V6 is high 14's. Do you feel better now?

[gringo]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

You and Gringo need to race to see which actually has the slowest Camaro on either forum. But wait.....you guys don't race. Because if you did you would know the l99 or ls3 would destroy you....last place at the strip doesn't equates to anything worth bragging about.

I think the slowest Camaro would be the auto LTG. So, I think both Rockin' and I are pretty good. However, I do know what the slowest Camaro V8 is the last few years. That would be the "sluggish" AFM plagued L99.

[StingrayblueSS]

Originally Posted by gringo

Okay, what are the "real" numbers then, Gomer? Okay, I get it now. The L99 is low to mid 12's and the LS3 is 12 flat. The V6 is high 14's. Do you feel better now?

I'd be bitter too if I had to if every time someone said "did you get the v8?" You have to explain how the v6 is "almost as good"

[gringo]

Originally Posted by Aqua Blue RS/SS

Just like afm valves in the exhaust... which as far as I’m aware don’t even exist on the 5th gen cars

They "exist" on the 5th gen L99 convertibles. May need to broaden your awareness.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by gringo

I think the slowest Camaro would be the auto LTG. So, I think both Rockin' and I are pretty good. However, I do know what the slowest Camaro V8 is the last few years. That would be the "sluggish" AFM plagued L99.

You can only call a car sluggish if you are quicker.

[gringo]

Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

I'd be bitter too if I had to if every time someone said "did you get the v8?" You have to explain how the v6 is "almost as good"

Actually, I get more people impressed with the advertised power figures of the V6 than I get with people asking me if I got the V8. No bitterness here. I love my V6.

I couldn't care less about the performance times of the antiquated L99 and LS3. They're considered slow these days, anyway. The 6th gen SS is almost a full second faster in the 1/4 and the new 460hp Mustang GT PP is even faster still.

I don't have to explain anything. I know I got a really nice ride and it's peppy enough to handle itself against 80% of the cars out on the street. And, the best part, I paid only $18.9k (brand new) for it back in '15.

[gringo]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

You can only call a car sluggish if you are quicker.

You can call something faster in the 1/4 mile sluggish if the throttle response warrants it.

Back in the day, I test drove a brand new LS1 '98 Trans Am. That car felt so sluggish at low to mid rpms I couldn't believe it. When I got back in my old '89 GTA (L98), it felt like a rocketship in comparision.

However, as we all know, those LS1 4th gens were much faster than the L98 3rd gens.

Unless I'm racing at the track, I'd prefer the slower more "responsive" car compared to the faster but "sluggish" feeling one. It just makes driving it more enjoyable IMO.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by gringo

You can call something faster in the 1/4 mile sluggish if the throttle response warrants it.

Back in the day, I test drove a brand new LS1 '98 Trans Am. That car felt so sluggish at low to mid rpms I couldn't believe it. When I got back in my old '89 GTA (L98), it felt like a rocketship in comparision.

However, as we all know, those LS1 4th gens were much faster than the L98 3rd gens.

Unless I'm racing at the track, I'd prefer the slower more "responsive" car compared to the faster but "sluggish" feeling one. It just makes driving it more enjoyable IMO.

Originally Posted by gringo

Actually, I get more people impressed with the advertised power figures of the V6 than I get with people asking me if I got the V8. No bitterness here. I love my V6.

I couldn't care less about the performance times of the antiquated L99 and LS3. They're considered slow these days, anyway. The 6th gen SS is almost a full second faster in the 1/4 and the new 460hp Mustang GT PP is even faster still.

I don't have to explain anything. I know I got a really nice ride and it's peppy enough to handle itself against 80% of the cars out on the street. And, the best part, I paid only $18.9k (brand new) for it back in '15.

Our fast list has the 6th gen 12.0 to 12.8. The 5th gen is 12.7 to 13.2.

[StingrayblueSS]

Originally Posted by gringo

Actually, I get more people impressed with the advertised power figures of the V6 than I get with people asking me if I got the V8. No bitterness here. I love my V6.

I couldn't care less about the performance times of the antiquated L99 and LS3. They're considered slow these days, anyway. The 6th gen SS is almost a full second faster in the 1/4 and the new 460hp Mustang GT PP is even faster still.

I don't have to explain anything. I know I got a really nice ride and it's peppy enough to handle itself against 80% of the cars out on the street. And, the best part, I paid only $18.9k (brand new) for it back in '15.

That's what the dealer told you after he checked your credit.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

That's what the dealer told you after he checked your credit.

Haha.....I have this on my phone. Great time to use it.

[gringo]

Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

That's what the dealer told you after he checked your credit.

Actually, my credit is pretty darn good. Probably better than yours. I'm only paying 2% on the whole car loan. I had a budget and did not want to go over like some people who like to get in debt up to their eyeballs buying something they really can't afford. No car is worth that IMO.

Anyway, a Camaro is not a muscle car by pure definition. The Challenger would fit that description. As for the dealer sales person laughing at me, well the guy who was my sales person told me that my car was a very nice car and he recommended a local Camaro club for me to check out. Oh, his personal car is a 2014 LS3 SS. He still owns it and still works at the same dealer.

[gringo]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

Our fast list has the 6th gen 12.0 to 12.8. The 5th gen is 12.7 to 13.2.

Was the 6th gen 12.8 time driven by Stevie Wonder or was it at a density altitude of Mt. Everest?

The 2016 brochure lists the 6th gen SS 8A at 12.3 secs in the 1/4 mile. The 5th gen SS is anywhere from 12.7 to 13.2, depending on drivetrain. That's almost a full second faster (9 tenths) than the L99 V8.

It's about the same difference the L99 is from the 5th gen non 2LS V6. 13.2 vs 14.1 ish.

However, if we use the 6th gen V6 8A as an example, it's only 2 tenths of a second difference. 13.2 vs 13.5 sec in the 1/4 mile as listed in the 2016 brochure for the LGX 8A. That's only 2 car lengths.

So, if you're a mostly stock L99 V8 owner, you better not be caught napping if your racing a 6th gen V6. If you do, you may just get beat by a V6.

[Reaper85]

Gringo the biggest problem with all your posts (considering price matters most to you) is my SS was cheaper to buy new than the new V6 is to buy new. Talk about a bargain. I get a faster (according to the times you post) better looking (my opinion) way better sounding (fact) for less money. No brainer to me.

[J Rod]

Originally Posted by gringo

...the guy who was my sales person told me that my car was a very nice car....

Whoa, that's crazy. We must have had the same salesman cause mine told me the exact same thing! Actually now that I think about it.... they all have said that. Wait a minute, you don't think they were just blowing smoke up our ass for the commission do you?

Originally Posted by gringo

Anyway, a Camaro is not a muscle car by pure definition. The Challenger would fit that description.

Well according to Merriam Webster, this is the pure definition....

muscle car noun
\ -ˌkär \
Definition of muscle car
: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

I would love to hear your twisted reasoning on how a Challenger fits that description but a Camaro does not. Let me grab my popcorn....