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Seer · 12-20-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

The 13 GT500 is completely different from the previous models.

No it is not. It has differences but it actually shares a lot with the 11-12.

Seer · 12-20-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron

Mm north of 850 to go a tenth slower?
Llivernois along with a few others now have made 750 through a auto and converter and the cars are thriving. . The mustang is lighter and has a bigger blower..and self destructs when pushed hard.

The argument is the zl will and does hang and even surpasses the gt500.. the pill is just to hard for the gt500 crowd who from what I read dont even usually have one but are just nut swings who read to much.

By the way, there are a handful of cars making 700 ish without a head change.. which again, another reason I stay away from those junk ass mod motors.. I know porting the heads sounds like a world changing thing to mod motor guys, but its not Gms fault for making a simply easier package to work woth.

There is very little need to port a the heads on a GT500, they flow pretty damn well, comparable to a lot of whats available on the aftermarket.

How do they self destruct when pushed hard? Define what pushing hard is, and self destructing.

SRT8Tech · 12-20-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer

How do they self destruct when pushed hard? Define what pushing hard is, and self destructing.

Thats what I wanna know. There are a ton of the little 5.4L's out there running well north of the 800 mark on the stock bottom end and still running strong after years of abuse. Im at 700/700 and beat the hell out of mine and its a daily driver............

The Baron · 12-20-2012, 05:14 PM

The 5.8 is completly diff animal. How do you own one and not know this?

The cylinder walls are thinner, by a lot. Several older 5.4 based cars will end up going real fast.. the 5.8 is blowing up when pushed.. look around..

2010redcamaro · 12-20-2012, 05:32 PM

the GT500's trap speed tells the tale from a roll a gt500 will take out a gtr. no stock camaro will do that

SRT8Tech · 12-20-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron

The 5.8 is completly diff animal. How do you own one and not know this?

The cylinder walls are thinner, by a lot. Several older 5.4 based cars will end up going real fast.. the 5.8 is blowing up when pushed.. look around..

I know my way around the 5.8L and 5.4L and ALL the differences between the 2.

You should know that the cyl wall thickness is no where near the weak link in the 5.8L. The block can handle ALOT of HP and TQ. So far I know of 2 that have blown up and one was because it was blown up on purpose. The other was because of stupidity from adding a crap load of timing on pump gas. Both were not a block failure.

C5RocksC5 · 12-20-2012, 05:48 PM

someone has a lot of hate for the GT500, I wonder why?

Seer · 12-20-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron

The 5.8 is completly diff animal. How do you own one and not know this?

The cylinder walls are thinner, by a lot. Several older 5.4 based cars will end up going real fast.. the 5.8 is blowing up when pushed.. look around..

Umm...

The internals of the aluminum 5.4 vs. the aluminum 5.8 are the exact same in strength. The stock blocks have been tested and proven in setups passed 2000hp. The plasma lining technology in both blocks make them quite suitable to punishment. The ONLY weak link is the crack forged I beam rods, which tend to give away around 850rwhp.

The 5.8 is not blowing up at all, it has the same ceiling as the 5.4, it is in the same engine family, parts are interchangeable.

The only 5.8 that has blown up thats been in the public's eye is Evolution Performances. That car was running 23+ psi on a KB 3.6L and had over 350+ track passes on it and countless dyno sessions. The friggin car was making well over 850rwhp when it popped.

Seer · 12-20-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

Thats what I wanna know. There are a ton of the little 5.4L's out there running well north of the 800 mark on the stock bottom end and still running strong after years of abuse. Im at 700/700 and beat the hell out of mine and its a daily driver............

No idea... I'm at 746rwhp on 93, and over 800 on urt-a... I've yet to skip a beat. My car is not a shop owned car, but I can almost guarantee I've turned better times than any privately owned ZL1 on this board, and my setup is nothing exotic. Whipple 2.9, 3.0 pulley, headers and adjustable shocks/struts.

again, this isn't dissing the ZL1, but lets be realistic here, the ZL1 needs internal modification and a head swap to run with a modded (not internally) GT500.

Deki · 12-20-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron

Mm north of 850 to go a tenth slower?
Llivernois along with a few others now have made 750 through a auto and converter and the cars are thriving. . The mustang is lighter and has a bigger blower..and self destructs when pushed hard.

The argument is the zl will and does hang and even surpasses the gt500.. the pill is just to hard for the gt500 crowd who from what I read dont even usually have one but are just nut swings who read to much.

By the way, there are a handful of cars making 700 ish without a head change.. which again, another reason I stay away from those junk ass mod motors.. I know porting the heads sounds like a world changing thing to mod motor guys, but its not Gms fault for making a simply easier package to work woth.

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Originally Posted by ace32x

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Junk ass mod motors? You mean the ones that make 600whp stock and 700whp with just a pulley/tune/ and off road x pipe? right...I think you two guys are the ones on the pill.

Supercharged SS · 12-20-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer

No idea... I'm at 746rwhp on 93, and over 800 on urt-a... I've yet to skip a beat. My car is not a shop owned car, but I can almost guarantee I've turned better times than any privately owned ZL1 on this board, and my setup is nothing exotic. Whipple 2.9, 3.0 pulley, headers and adjustable shocks/struts.

again, this isn't dissing the ZL1, but lets be realistic here, the ZL1 needs internal modification and a head swap to run with a modded (not internally) GT500.

How fast has your car gone?

Njtony · 12-20-2012, 08:25 PM

now this time is just strait up awesome
Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S)

but just like the 11.7 out of a ZL1 this is not the norm.[/QUOTE]

Thank you!

Supercharged SS · 12-20-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Njtony

now this time is just strait up awesome
Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S)

but just like the 11.7 out of a ZL1 this is not the norm.

Thank you![/QUOTE]

Any tire change?

Seer · 12-20-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

How fast has your car gone?

low 10s @ high 130s/low 140s 1.57 60'

Still has a little more left in it on shell urt-a as well as actually using the two step to launch with.

I wasn't looking to throw down a challenge etc, I was mainly just saying the 5.4/5.8 GT500 can take a ton of abuse. There are plenty of GT500's out there that are complete street cars like my own, running better times as well.

12-20-2012, 05:14 PM	#60
The Baron Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: st louis Posts: 838	The 5.8 is completly diff animal. How do you own one and not know this? The cylinder walls are thinner, by a lot. Several older 5.4 based cars will end up going real fast.. the 5.8 is blowing up when pushed.. look around..

12-20-2012, 05:32 PM	#61
2010redcamaro Drives: camaro jeep srt8 2010 gtr Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: spfld Posts: 157	the GT500's trap speed tells the tale from a roll a gt500 will take out a gtr. no stock camaro will do that

12-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#63
C5RocksC5 Banned Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 697	someone has a lot of hate for the GT500, I wonder why?

12-20-2012, 08:25 PM	#68
Njtony Drives: 2015 Zo6 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Nj Posts: 24	now this time is just strait up awesome Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S) but just like the 11.7 out of a ZL1 this is not the norm.[/QUOTE] Thank you!