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Old 06-20-2019, 01:12 PM   #71
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Wrong, 2016 was the only year for Tech Pack without coolers.
What part is wrong exactly? I said 17 up you can get tech and track pack. That is true You can combine them you cant in 16. Tech pack in 16 nixed the coolers and 17 they made them standard regardless.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:16 PM   #72
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Have you driven DCT cars? Have you driven our A10s? The A10 is a match for DCT. My past DCT cars are 09 M3/13 M5/16 M5/18 M3. The A10 is a match for the DCTs.
have you driven a PDK car? I'd say, the A10 is good, but lagging behind a bit.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:18 PM   #73
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With the ZLE with the A10 will be around 3880 lbs. The GT500 will be a pig, probably over 4000 maybe 4100lbs. It will have to use all of that extra HP just to break even. Plus the torque is already less than the ZL1. The old GT500 was over 3900lbs and the 2020 is supposed to be around 200lbs more.

To make it even, both cars should run the same tires. Same amount of gas in the tank, same person driving. Not some fat ass like Matt Farah driving the ZL1 and Randy Pobst driving the GT500.

Then the real answer will be seen.
funny that the difference between 120-220 lbs you consider a pig.. theres probably some of us on the forum that could lose that many lbs
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:27 PM   #74
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funny that the difference between 120-220 lbs you consider a pig.. theres probably some of us on the forum that could lose that many lbs
220lbs heavier than 3880lbs is 6% heavier. That is a lot of extra weight and mainly over the front wheels.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:28 PM   #75
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have you driven a PDK car? I'd say, the A10 is good, but lagging behind a bit.
I have not owned a PDK. Where does it lag? I’m not talking about PDK test drives. I am talking PDK ownership and 1000s of miles. Please explain.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:31 PM   #76
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I have not owned a PDK. Where does it lag? I’m not talking about PDK test drives. I am talking PDK ownership and 1000s of miles. Please explain.
it shifts faster and feels more locked in. The old DCT transmissions were clunky at low speeds, but PDK is so smooth at any speed. I love my A10, but if Hydra-Matic was the future, I'm sure Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini would be using those.

disclaimer, I haven't owned a PDK yet, but I have driven 1000's of miles, on and off the track in different PDK cars. So I'm no expert
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:38 PM   #77
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it shifts faster and feels more locked in. The old DCT transmissions were clunky at low speeds, but PDK is so smooth at any speed. I love my A10, but if Hydra-Matic was the future, I'm sure Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini would be using those.

disclaimer, I haven't owned a PDK yet, but I have driven 1000's of miles, on and off the track in different PDK cars. So I'm no expert
I’ll take about 60 percent of what you said.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:43 PM   #78
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I’ll take about 60 percent of what you said.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:07 PM   #79
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I'm personally ok with the separation in looks to the GT350/R.
Separation makes sense, but it's not separated from the standard Mustang body in sheetmetal as far as I can tell. Only with the front facia and rear wing.

The GT3RS has the same rear fenders and scoops as the Turbo and GT2, and this makes them all look great.

Missing the GT350 fenders removes the well engineered airflow and brake cooling that provided. Plus it looked very cool. Why do that except to save money?
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:33 PM   #80
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...lby/index.html

The writers are CNN have no clue what they are talking about. They put that the current GT350 makes 662hp. Idiots!
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:45 PM   #81
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...lby/index.html

The writers are CNN have no clue what they are talking about. They put that the current GT350 makes 662hp. Idiots!
Wasn't that the rating of the last GT500?
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:47 PM   #82
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Koenigsegg Light Speed Transmission, that my friends is the future! Look it up along with their Free-Valve technology, very very pricey stuff right now but it will make it's way into cheaper stuff eventually, truly revolutionary stuff!
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:07 PM   #83
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Wasn't that the rating of the last GT500?
Yep, but reporters now a days don’t do their due diligence.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:57 PM   #84
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Lol. Perspective!
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