Firearms Section

[Robotdoc]

Originally Posted by Mark's SS

I bet you will like both. Get one of each.

I may end up doing that! Lol!

[B2k4E]

Originally Posted by SamHouseIII

OK,

GUN PORN Time!

I have right at 4 dozen weapons, I have posted a few of my favorites. Mostly pistols and my CX4

That's a nice hand-cannon you have there in the second pic, sir. I am quite jealous.

[monstertodd]

Originally Posted by Ark5thGenGirl

My favorite pistol-- Ruger .380

Hotness!

[CamaroSkooter]

Short story time:

My grandfather was in WWII and got a trophy pistol off of a captured German soldier. A JP Sauer & Sohn 38H

Fast-forward a few decades - our family had to set my grandfather up in an assisted living facility due to a number of things, so, in the process my parents ended up with this neat little trophy gun.

So, last week, I told my parents that I was heading to the gun range on Sunday to shoot my new Springfield XDm-9 and they asked if I would take the 38H to make sure it still works. So, I clean the gun thoroughly (it was still in really good shape for having sat un-fired for who knows how long) take it to a gunsmith and he says it should be good to go. I showed him the ammo that my grandfather had with it (who knows when he bought it) and the gunsmith said it looked okay.

So, I take the gun to the range on Sunday, it operates just fine (had a couple loading issues, but that could just be an oiling issue) and I actually got a fairly tight grouping of shots out of the pistol.

Here's where the interesting part goes. Has anyone ever heard of a person having an allergic reaction to gun powder?

I went out to eat with some friends after going to the range, went home and laid out my stuff on my coffee table, disassembled the guns, and then realized it was getting late so I decided to do the cleaning the next day. A few hours into my sleep, I wake up itching really bad. I get up and go to the restroom and I'm breaking out in hives on my hands and arms.

Now, here I'm thinking, what in the world did I come into contact with that could possibly be the culprit? At first I thought it was something I ate. Anyway, I go to the store and get some Benadryl and the hives clear up in the afternoon.

So, I clean my 9mm that I was also shooting on Sunday. No issues. As soon as I start cleaning the 38H, though, I start itching again. The hives come back and get even worse. I finish up as quick as I can and then wash just about everything I come into contact with.

Has anyone ever heard of this kind of reaction to gun powder? It kind of confuses me because I didn't have any such reaction to the gun powder from my 9mm, but the gun powder from the .32 set me off. I'm kind of scared to touch the 38H now.

[B2k4E]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Short story time:

My grandfather was in WWII and got a trophy pistol off of a captured German soldier. A JP Sauer & Sohn 38H

Fast-forward a few decades - our family had to set my grandfather up in an assisted living facility due to a number of things, so, in the process my parents ended up with this neat little trophy gun.

So, last week, I told my parents that I was heading to the gun range on Sunday to shoot my new Springfield XDm-9 and they asked if I would take the 38H to make sure it still works. So, I clean the gun thoroughly (it was still in really good shape for having sat un-fired for who knows how long) take it to a gunsmith and he says it should be good to go. I showed him the ammo that my grandfather had with it (who knows when he bought it) and the gunsmith said it looked okay.

So, I take the gun to the range on Sunday, it operates just fine (had a couple loading issues, but that could just be an oiling issue) and I actually got a fairly tight grouping of shots out of the pistol.

Here's where the interesting part goes. Has anyone ever heard of a person having an allergic reaction to gun powder?

I went out to eat with some friends after going to the range, went home and laid out my stuff on my coffee table, disassembled the guns, and then realized it was getting late so I decided to do the cleaning the next day. A few hours into my sleep, I wake up itching really bad. I get up and go to the restroom and I'm breaking out in hives on my hands and arms.

Now, here I'm thinking, what in the world did I come into contact with that could possibly be the culprit? At first I thought it was something I ate. Anyway, I go to the store and get some Benadryl and the hives clear up in the afternoon.

So, I clean my 9mm that I was also shooting on Sunday. No issues. As soon as I start cleaning the 38H, though, I start itching again. The hives come back and get even worse. I finish up as quick as I can and then wash just about everything I come into contact with.

Has anyone ever heard of this kind of reaction to gun powder? It kind of confuses me because I didn't have any such reaction to the gun powder from my 9mm, but the gun powder from the .32 set me off. I'm kind of scared to touch the 38H now.

How old and what brand are the rounds are you using? There could also be dust from something in Europe in the pistol's action, and getting onto your arms and hands when the slide operates.

Sounds like a good tear down and complete cleaning is in order. Also try to find some newer ammo around if possible. (Check Mitchell's Mausers, I believe they still sell reconditioned Mausers and Lugers, so he might have some ammo for your 38.)

I don't really see how somebody could be allergic to gunpowder since most or all of it is man-made. (Isn't it?)

[VASCAR2]

I figure you had a reaction to the old gun powder or more likely the old primer compound. Depending on the age of the ammo the primers could be corrosive. A J P Sauer and son 38 H might be chambered for 7.65/32 ACP or 380 Auto/9MM Kurz if I remember correctly. Either cartridge is relatively easy to find now. It is also possible you had an allergic reaction to the old oils on the gun. Some petroleum based products are known to cause reactions.

[BOOGIE]

I have a little bodyguard 380 thats a good little gun to carry :-)

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by B2k4E

How old and what brand are the rounds are you using? There could also be dust from something in Europe in the pistol's action, and getting onto your arms and hands when the slide operates.

Sounds like a good tear down and complete cleaning is in order. Also try to find some newer ammo around if possible. (Check Mitchell's Mausers, I believe they still sell reconditioned Mausers and Lugers, so he might have some ammo for your 38.)

I don't really see how somebody could be allergic to gunpowder since most or all of it is man-made. (Isn't it?)

It's perfectly possible for someone to have a reaction to a man-made substance, but you're probably right about the dust. Skooter, do you have any other allergies that you know of? Maybe there was some sort of pollen or something in there...

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Short story time:

My grandfather was in WWII and got a trophy pistol off of a captured German soldier. A JP Sauer & Sohn 38H

Fast-forward a few decades - our family had to set my grandfather up in an assisted living facility due to a number of things, so, in the process my parents ended up with this neat little trophy gun.

So, last week, I told my parents that I was heading to the gun range on Sunday to shoot my new Springfield XDm-9 and they asked if I would take the 38H to make sure it still works. So, I clean the gun thoroughly (it was still in really good shape for having sat un-fired for who knows how long) take it to a gunsmith and he says it should be good to go. I showed him the ammo that my grandfather had with it (who knows when he bought it) and the gunsmith said it looked okay.

So, I take the gun to the range on Sunday, it operates just fine (had a couple loading issues, but that could just be an oiling issue) and I actually got a fairly tight grouping of shots out of the pistol.

Here's where the interesting part goes. Has anyone ever heard of a person having an allergic reaction to gun powder?

I went out to eat with some friends after going to the range, went home and laid out my stuff on my coffee table, disassembled the guns, and then realized it was getting late so I decided to do the cleaning the next day. A few hours into my sleep, I wake up itching really bad. I get up and go to the restroom and I'm breaking out in hives on my hands and arms.

Now, here I'm thinking, what in the world did I come into contact with that could possibly be the culprit? At first I thought it was something I ate. Anyway, I go to the store and get some Benadryl and the hives clear up in the afternoon.

So, I clean my 9mm that I was also shooting on Sunday. No issues. As soon as I start cleaning the 38H, though, I start itching again. The hives come back and get even worse. I finish up as quick as I can and then wash just about everything I come into contact with.

Has anyone ever heard of this kind of reaction to gun powder? It kind of confuses me because I didn't have any such reaction to the gun powder from my 9mm, but the gun powder from the .32 set me off. I'm kind of scared to touch the 38H now.

Even with new ammo some of the stabilizers used in old military grade powder could cause this,just clean the bore well using KG gun cleaners my fav. and there are many opinions on gun cleaners but I use there stuff on 7,000+$ rifles and trust it and it works great.It could be lead fouled due to the age of the weapon and the fact there were not a lot of jacketed bullets being made for such a small cal. back then.The lead foul could be saturated with the chemical compounds giving you this reaction.You might have to scrub the $hit out of the bore.Another thing ,anytime you use gun cleaning chemicals wear gloves,the warnings about skin contact are there for a reason.Also if you ever have any loading or cycling issues try European ammo Dynamit-Nobel or Sellier & Bellot that will solve that because European ammo is loaded to C.I.P. stranded and is a little hotter and works better in German weapons.

[helmincamaro]

[CamaroSkooter]

Thank you all for your responses. I appreciate the input

Originally Posted by B2k4E

How old and what brand are the rounds are you using? There could also be dust from something in Europe in the pistol's action, and getting onto your arms and hands when the slide operates.

Sounds like a good tear down and complete cleaning is in order. Also try to find some newer ammo around if possible. (Check Mitchell's Mausers, I believe they still sell reconditioned Mausers and Lugers, so he might have some ammo for your 38.)

I don't really see how somebody could be allergic to gunpowder since most or all of it is man-made. (Isn't it?)

The old ammo was (I think) normal Winchester 32 Auto FMJ. The pricetag on the box indicated the 50-round box was $17.99 when it was purchased new, and considering the new 32 auto 50-round box of ammo I purchased was $35.99 I would guess the old stuff was maybe 10 years old...or maybe older. I don't know.

It was definately not WWII era ammunition, though. And I'm guessing that WWII was not the last time the gun was fired considering how "clean" the gun was before I cleaned it initially.

Originally Posted by VASCAR2

I figure you had a reaction to the old gun powder or more likely the old primer compound. Depending on the age of the ammo the primers could be corrosive. A J P Sauer and son 38 H might be chambered for 7.65/32 ACP or 380 Auto/9MM Kurz if I remember correctly. Either cartridge is relatively easy to find now. It is also possible you had an allergic reaction to the old oils on the gun. Some petroleum based products are known to cause reactions.

That's my guess. I don't have any idea what kind of conditions the old ammo was stored in before it came into our posession, so there could be any number of things that could have been wrong with the older ammo.

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

It's perfectly possible for someone to have a reaction to a man-made substance, but you're probably right about the dust. Skooter, do you have any other allergies that you know of? Maybe there was some sort of pollen or something in there...

That's the thing, I've never been to an allergist so I really have no idea what I am or am not allergic to. I suppose I should go do that

Originally Posted by Gordo

Even with new ammo some of the stabilizers used in old military grade powder could cause this,just clean the bore well using KG gun cleaners my fav. and there are many opinions on gun cleaners but I use there stuff on 7,000+$ rifles and trust it and it works great.It could be lead fouled due to the age of the weapon and the fact there were not a lot of jacketed bullets being made for such a small cal. back then.The lead foul could be saturated with the chemical compounds giving you this reaction.You might have to scrub the $hit out of the bore.Another thing ,anytime you use gun cleaning chemicals wear gloves,the warnings about skin contact are there for a reason.Also if you ever have any loading or cycling issues try European ammo Dynamit-Nobel or Sellier & Bellot that will solve that because European ammo is loaded to C.I.P. stranded and is a little hotter and works better in German weapons.

All I've been using to clean my gun(s) is the Hoppe's Elite Gun Oil I found at Academy, plenty of Q-Tips, blue shop towels, an old toothbrush, and the wire brush that came with my XDm-9.

The J P Sauer & Sohn 38H looks like it would be a real bear to completely disassemble for an extremely thorough cleaning. I think if it needs that, I should just take it to a gunsmith? I consider myself pretty good at figuring out mechanical devices, but I could easily see myself getting in over my head disassembling this pistol...

Does taking it to a gunsmith for this seem like a pretty safe investment to y'all? At the very least I could see if they know who to contact about getting original or reproduction grips to replace the wood ones my grandfather had made for the gun to replace the original cracked and brittle ones...

[blake-b]

I looked and didn't see anything, but can we sell guns on here in the misc section? I want to offload a SA M1A scout/squad and a Benelli M4 to fund my horsepower addiction. PS: I do know the FFL regulations concerning intra and interstate selling/shipping of firearms.

[D Day Dog]

Originally Posted by blake-b

I looked and didn't see anything, but can we sell guns on here in the misc section? I want to offload a SA M1A scout/squad and a Benelli M4 to fund my horsepower addiction. PS: I do know the FFL regulations concerning intra and interstate selling/shipping of firearms.

I wouldn't see why you couldn't sell them here. Probably not many responses though. I'd join a forum more in tune with the type of weapons you want to sell and post them there. I have had great luck selling firearms on different gun forums.

...and careful about your HP addiction. Mine so far has cost me two AKs - 1 Galil - and a K98 sniper. I had to buy a Ruger 10/22 and the new Archangel Marauder kit to drop it into just to remind myself that I am still a hardcore 2nd Amendment advocate.

[Harley1]