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Old 02-09-2023, 05:40 PM   #85
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If I recall back in the day they could not sell Superbirds. They were ugly and they made about the same as 2014 and 15 Z28s.

And look how many decades it took for them to get where they are now. Those cars have a racing pedigree, the 5th gen Z28 does not.

1950 Superbirds were sold and 500 Daytona's.
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:01 PM   #86
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Name calling? He was just pointing out your username, it’s an oxymoron. His name for you actually makes sense.

You fail to see the drooling over the Z/28? You’re on a Z/28 forum! What’s not to understand here? It was said earlier and I’ll repeat it. You’re either a curmudgeon troll who has nothing better to do than attempt to insult owners here or you wish you were an owner of one and are not for whatever reason. I’m going with the latter.

Life tip, don’t enter a room and spew comments that you know will be viewed as insults to most in the room and then complain someone called you a name.

Facts are now insults? Sad the world we now live in when people get butt hurt over this stuff.

I have ZERO desire to own a Z28, as most don't. If I wanted one I'd have one, just that simple. It's not like a Z28 is a shit ton more money than a nice low mile ZL1 of the same year and the Z28 is slow in the street in comparison.

This post was originally made to stroke the egos of Z28 owners who seem to miss why the Z28 hasn't risen in value and is still dropping vs MSRP(and will be quite some time before it surpasses MSRP in value)

If you can't understand the reason is because these cars sat on lots for up to three years because it has no place and was overpriced.... well, you can be willfully ignorant, that's your choice.

Low mile 5th gen ZL1's are holding their value as well or better percentage wise vs MSRP than the Z28 is. Most low mile 2013-2015 nice ZL1's are in the mid 40's, MSRP was mid 50k range. The reason? The cars are wanted.

But anywho.....have a good night.
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:03 PM   #87
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And look how many decades it took for them to get where they are now. Those cars have a racing pedigree, the 5th gen Z28 does not.

1950 Superbirds were sold and 500 Daytona's.
No pedigree? actually the Gen 5 Z won back to back Continental Tire Sports car championships in 05 & 06 against all comers- Porsche,Audi, Ford etc. Google is your freind, and they made less Gen 5 Z's then Superbirds.
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:07 PM   #88
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And look how many decades it took for them to get where they are now. Those cars have a racing pedigree, the 5th gen Z28 does not.

1950 Superbirds were sold and 500 Daytona's.
Now your kinda getting dumb. Real dumb. You obviously don't get the point of a Z28. Nobody wanted the Superbirds etc because people didn't know what they were. Same with the Z28. That's what will make it collectible. Z28s have no pedigree. Where have you been?

You have a 2013 Zl1? Maybe(I am thinking you don't even really have one). Who wants a 2013 ZL1when 2023 is so much better?

I think your missing critical thinking skills and just trying to get reactions out of people because your tubby and crave attention. If you have no desire for Z28s why are you on a forum about them? Look in the mirror and decide to stop eating so much and maybe you will feel better about yourself and not need to take your anger and frustration out on other people. I wish you well and I will pray for you.

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Old 02-09-2023, 06:12 PM   #89
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wait you have a 13 ZL1? not sure what you're going on about??
the ZL1 you have is a great car, but why are you going on and on about cars you don't even own?
Trolling?
Do you play pro sports? Do you discuss pro sports?
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:16 PM   #90
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No pedigree? actually the Gen 5 Z won back to back Continental Tire Sports car championships in 05 & 06 against all comers- Porsche,Audi, Ford etc. Google is your freind, and they made less Gen 5 Z's then Superbirds.
Well, it's shell did. I stand corrected. The 5th gen Z28 will never go in value where the Superbird/Daytona is and will further go. At least not in my lifetime for sure not the next 30 years

You are correct

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/10...-championship/
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:34 PM   #91
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3 years on the lot? I bought in NOV of ‘15 when the big rebates hit. I recall by spring they seemed to be off the lot. I’m sure you can find an example of an untitled car but by that time you were no longer color shopping and close to home.

427, 505hp NA with gobs of torque, huge brakes. What’s not to love. For me the point is a low production and this thing is like an old muscle car with no tech. I’m happy these sat and had rebates. At the time, there would have been no way for me to afford it if they were at or over sticker on day 1. I feel bad for the collectors that scooped up the first ones for sticker or more.

Why haven’t the prices skyrocketed? It’s a Chevy. Seems to take any Chevy (pre-COVID) awhile to take off.
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:44 PM   #92
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3 years on the lot? I bought in NOV of ‘15 when the big rebates hit. I recall by spring they seemed to be off the lot. I’m sure you can find an example of an untitled car but by that time you were no longer color shopping and close to home.

427, 505hp NA with gobs of torque, huge brakes. What’s not to love. For me the point is a low production and this thing is like an old muscle car with no tech. I’m happy these sat and had rebates. At the time, there would have been no way for me to afford it if they were at or over sticker on day 1. I feel bad for the collectors that scooped up the first ones for sticker or more.

Why haven’t the prices skyrocketed? It’s a Chevy. Seems to take any Chevy (pre-COVID) awhile to take off.
Many sat on lots for 2 to even I think one 3 years, they had to drop the price into the low 50K range to sell those cars.

The people who bought them at MSRP plus a 15K markup got screwed.

The GT350R has done well in value increase, the Z28 not so much.

You can get a ZL1 of the same year and miles for the same money, that doesn't make the Z28 "a deal" it shows how far they are down.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...349445020/NONE

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https://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07...rong-approach/
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Old 02-09-2023, 07:21 PM   #93
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Many sat on lots for 2 to even I think one 3 years, they had to drop the price into the low 50K range to sell those cars.

The people who bought them at MSRP plus a 15K markup got screwed.

The GT350R has done well in value increase, the Z28 not so much.

You can get a ZL1 of the same year and miles for the same money, that doesn't make the Z28 "a deal" it shows how far they are down.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...349445020/NONE

A good read

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07...rong-approach/
Yep, bought mine in that mid 50 range. Couldn’t have done it with out it.

You could find comps all day long of what did well and what didn’t. $100k at Mecum last month to an R title high mile one under $40k. I think the car I bought is fantastic and that all that matters to me. Like that article says, it’s all about performance. Some people need backup cameras, GPS, infotainment, Bluetooth, not me. When I’m in my Z/28 ripping around it’s all about the drive, radio is off and I learned how to use my mirrors to backup a long time ago. Fords have always had a strange following, I’ve never been part of that crowd to understand it.
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Old 02-09-2023, 07:38 PM   #94
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Many sat on lots for 2 to even I think one 3 years, they had to drop the price into the low 50K range to sell those cars.

The people who bought them at MSRP plus a 15K markup got screwed.

The GT350R has done well in value increase, the Z28 not so much.

You can get a ZL1 of the same year and miles for the same money, that doesn't make the Z28 "a deal" it shows how far they are down.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...349445020/NONE

A good read

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07...rong-approach/
Seeing these Z/28's for sale like the one posted with backup cameras and huge speakers installed in the trunk is just criminal. I bought this for the performance and I drive it like I stole it every time and it puts a huge smile on my face. I don't have to be the fastest one at the track but I will be there flogging my Z. The prices pulled back and I was lucky enough to find a fully sorted one local a few months ago. Will prices continue to drop? probably, will it go up, maybe. It's a great buy right now and a lot of car for what it is. I keep up with my buddies Porsche GT4 which he paid more than double for. We appreciate each others cars
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Old 02-09-2023, 08:20 PM   #95
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Do you play pro sports? Do you discuss pro sports?
haha

what a stupid argument

but you can't argue with stupid nor can you fix stupid

ice up son
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Old 02-09-2023, 08:27 PM   #96
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haha

what a stupid argument

but you can't argue with stupid nor can you fix stupid

ice up son
I think he was asking if you play sports because he doesn't and doesn't want to.
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Old 02-09-2023, 09:08 PM   #97
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My original post was referring to the marketing prowess of Ford compared to Chevy. I'm new to the muscle car world and was gravitated to Z28/GT350 track focused capabilities. Test drove both and decided on the Z which is more of a stripped-down-bare-bones-no-frills track monster. I desired more of my friend's GT3RS type driving dynamics. GT350 come equipped with more amenities like back-up camera and stuff. Ultimately, the racing hardware (NA7.0/dry sump/DSSV/ceramics..) was more important to me. Plus, the relation to the historic Le Mans winning C6R.

I did not mean to offend anybody.
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Old 02-10-2023, 01:41 AM   #98
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haha

what a stupid argument

but you can't argue with stupid nor can you fix stupid

ice up son
If you can read.....back, your post stated "why are you even in here, you don't even have a Z28 you have a ZL1"

Keep up, I even quoted it for you.
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