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Anyone Happen to Notice the OP Disappeared while all you guys were Arguing.
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08-21-2013, 02:07 PM | #44 | |
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Like I said the new turbo kits are getting the fitments better and less issues. But for the $7500-8500 I'll take a Maggie and 600 rwhp l'll take a Maggie reliability all day long.
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08-21-2013, 02:08 PM | #45 |
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I did...lol hopefully on the phone with you ordering a Maggie,
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08-21-2013, 02:44 PM | #46 |
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Street car with street tires. Probably not that good. How a person sets up a car for drag racing will have more effect on that than the choice of power adder.
As for reliability, I know my friends have sold THOUSANDs of turbo kits and rarely if ever have failures that aren't install or abuse issues. There is a reason OEMs and the trucking industry, heavy machinery, etc all use turbos. If they weren't reliable they wouldn't be using them. Comparing a poorly designed kit to an OEM quality kit isn't even worth discusses. That is like comparing a garage built kit car made by a weekend warrior to a new camaro from GM. My one friend with a maggie has had great luck with his in general but I do remember replacing a belt in my garage because it broke, and that wasn't the first time he had to do that. In order to get it to not slip he has to run it so tight that every few thousand miles the belts let go. For a bolt on and go situation they maybe ok, but like that they only make 490-520rwhp. Start adding all the parts, belt drives, tensioners, spinning them to the moon, etc and the reliability of the whole system goes down hill quickly.
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$6000.00 Maggie $1100.00 L/T's $250.00 ZL1 pump $60.00 pulley $7410.00 total and more reliable and drivable. Quote:
And I feel this thread has been since you got on it, the Op probably said screw this, and I dont blame him. Shouldn't you be hanging out on a mustang or vette forum?
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The OP did the right thing and went Procharger. I'm with unreal though. I'm a centri fan myself but turbo's are awesome.
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I recently did a Procharger on a friends Z06 and I was very impressed, but on all the stock Camaros I've driven the Procharger is lacking a bit to me. Now if you do a bunch of additional mods its a lot better, but just a Maggie is the best bang for the buck.
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Car enthusiast should be able to post where ever they want. This is why the local camaro club is so bad, they are a bunch of elitest stuck up people that drive off the real car enthusiast. More reliable and more driveable? Says who? Your making stuff up at that point. For $7500 you can have a TT kit that would destroy that maggie car in any speed competition and have plenty of room to grow, more torque, and drives just like stock. Kevin's car made 680rwhp through an auto with no other mods on 91 octane in 110+ heat. I've driven plenty of maggie cars, tuned them. I've also driven a TT car and to say it drives better is the understatement of the year.
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08-21-2013, 03:40 PM | #52 |
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I never said a maggie is a bad blower. Have $5500 to spend and only want 500rwhp, go for it. Want something to show off at car shows, go for it. What to gain 100rwhp, go for it. They are good blowers, and can be made to perform. They are reliable, they are good, just there are other great options too. If you want to race, there are simply better options. Want 600+hp, better options IMO. Want 800+hp, well, good luck with that and a maggie. 1000hp, better have a lot of n2o.
Even Mr Maggie (Jamie) said he did the maggie because it was all that was out and if he had to start over would probably do something like a Ysi.
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08-21-2013, 03:46 PM | #53 |
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If the TT kit is the greatest thing since sliced bread then while do Maggie's out sell them 500 to 1?
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I can def see why the Maggie kit is more appealing to most consumers. The aftermarket turbo market has gotten a bad rap over the last 20 years. |
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08-21-2013, 03:53 PM | #55 |
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That's because people are misinformed. Same reason people think nitrous destroys motors when it's the user not knowing what they are doing. Pretty simple really.
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Camaro Events are just that, dont show up acting like your better than most in a beater Mustang and expect to be liked. Cruise nights, Car shows and other car events are open to all. Your attitude and arrogance is why you were not like or accepted by most in the club, you were actually a topic at one of the cruise nights at the Pavillions. Several of our members have other make cars and will sometimes drive them to events without the attitude you displayed. If you want to be embraced into the local Camaro community its best to, 1 have a Camaro, 2 be nice and humble. You rubbed a lot of members the wrong way. Don't accuse others of being elitist stuck ups due to your shortcomings. As far as you claim, a TT turned up will destroy a Maggie car but it wont be reliable, really 680 rwhp on a stock bottom end with only a TT kit, that means more boost than is safe on a stock bottom end with no other mods. Im not saying it cant be done, I'm saying its stupid to. Why do you think all the major aftermarket tuners use Maggies, Hennessy, Callaway, SLP(until recently when they started making there own) use them? Because its safe relable power which can be warrantied. All of there large packages that use TT set ups have "Forged" bottom ends.
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