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Mikamaro · 11-10-2016, 09:27 PM

I'm Interested to hear the positive and negative about the suspension, brakes, SC motor & tires while tracking your zl1 on a road course.

* If you did some modifications to your suspension, please let me know how it did improve it or not.
Thanks

p3jason · 11-11-2016, 09:44 AM

These things are well prepared for road course work right out of the gate. One exception is the brake fluid. High temp brake fluid is a must if you are going to be doing road course work.

GONMAD510 · 11-11-2016, 10:24 AM

One of the first things I would look into is cooling. The computer is going to pull timing the more you run because of the heat.

Mikamaro · 11-11-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by p3jason

These things are well prepared for road course work right out of the gate. One exception is the brake fluid. High temp brake fluid is a must if you are going to be doing road course work.

right, that goes without saying for any car, anything more in depth as per parts?

Mikamaro · 11-11-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GONMAD510

One of the first things I would look into is cooling. The computer is going to pull timing the more you run because of the heat.

Im listennig, anything more specific as in parts needed or solutions already out there with proven results?

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 11-11-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Im listennig, anything more specific as in parts needed or solutions already out there with proven results?

If your car is stock boost wise and if you're only doing 2-5 laps at a burst (Depending on track and stuff) then you'll be fine with temps. Don't worry. However, if you're going to want to go for many laps in a row then you'll need to move up to a Heat exchanger upgrade.

KaBoom1701 · 11-11-2016, 11:38 AM

I run between 5-6 courses a year in SoCal.

I lowered mine 1" and put adjustable camber plates for track days. You can see the full list of my mods below but the first thing is full brake bleed with DOT 4 Motul fluid 600.

E. Bryant · 11-11-2016, 11:39 AM

The car is solid out of the box. Flush the brakes with some good DOT 4 and you can hit the track.

The next step beyond that are a set of dedicated track tires, as the stock Goodyear F1s are crap in cold weather, and I'm not a big fan of using my street tires on the track. I run 305/30R19 Hankook RS-3s on a set of Z/28 wheels, but there are plenty of other combos that are also proven. This combination provides more neutral handling characteristics, and also drops the car by an inch.

I have not found the suspension lacking, and thus have left it alone since I think it provides an outstanding compromise between handling and ride. Others who are well-respected will likely disagree with me and can provide specific suggestions.

The one area that has presented some challenges are the brakes; they were great when the car was stock, but now seem a bit insufficient after stuffing more tire under the car and then increasing the power by 35%. I'm sure that others feel differently, but I suspect that they drive differently than I do and on different tracks.

SnowyCamaro · 11-11-2016, 05:58 PM

I just swapped the brake fluid for ate typ2000 dot4. No issues. Change tranny and diff fluid as recommended in the manual.

Car is pretty bulletproof. But I just track for fun so might not be pushing as hard as others here.

Mikamaro · 11-11-2016, 07:55 PM

Good stuff guys

E. Bryant · 11-12-2016, 09:22 AM

Start off with fresh fluids, and then go thrash the car for a while before thinking about other upgrades. It's remarkably good on the track when bone-stock, and 99% of the time, the driver will be the limiting factor. The car is fast enough that it takes considerable amounts of skill to exploit all the available performance. Save your pennies for track days, instruction, and lots of tires!

Mikamaro · 11-12-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Bryant

Start off with fresh fluids, and then go thrash the car for a while before thinking about other upgrades. It's remarkably good on the track when bone-stock, and 99% of the time, the driver will be the limiting factor. The car is fast enough that it takes considerable amounts of skill to exploit all the available performance. Save your pennies for track days, instruction, and lots of tires!

...says the guy with 10k of mods. Llol

E. Bryant · 11-12-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikamaro

...says the guy with 10k of mods. Llol

... says the guy who learned how to drive the car before performing those mods.

Mikamaro · 11-13-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Bryant

... says the guy who learned how to drive the car before performing those mods.

And how many track hours have you spent before making those changes?

11-10-2016, 09:27 PM	#1
Mikamaro MikeNoMaro Drives: A 2016 Challenger R/T M6 STP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,375 View My Garage	Looking for input from ZL1 owners who track theirs on road courses. I'm Interested to hear the positive and negative about the suspension, brakes, SC motor & tires while tracking your zl1 on a road course. * If you did some modifications to your suspension, please let me know how it did improve it or not. Thanks __________________ Track Day Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mrgoodman2000/videos Built #83817, Born January 18th, Christened June 11th 2010, Stolen October 3rd 2016. Last edited by Mikamaro; 11-11-2016 at 06:19 AM.

11-11-2016, 09:44 AM	#2
p3jason Allergic to stupid. Drives: 2015 ZL1 #957 M6 AGM & 1990 Z24 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 368 View My Garage	These things are well prepared for road course work right out of the gate. One exception is the brake fluid. High temp brake fluid is a must if you are going to be doing road course work. __________________

11-11-2016, 11:38 AM	#7
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I run between 5-6 courses a year in SoCal. I lowered mine 1" and put adjustable camber plates for track days. You can see the full list of my mods below but the first thing is full brake bleed with DOT 4 Motul fluid 600. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

11-11-2016, 11:39 AM	#8
E. Bryant Gearhead Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 252	The car is solid out of the box. Flush the brakes with some good DOT 4 and you can hit the track. The next step beyond that are a set of dedicated track tires, as the stock Goodyear F1s are crap in cold weather, and I'm not a big fan of using my street tires on the track. I run 305/30R19 Hankook RS-3s on a set of Z/28 wheels, but there are plenty of other combos that are also proven. This combination provides more neutral handling characteristics, and also drops the car by an inch. I have not found the suspension lacking, and thus have left it alone since I think it provides an outstanding compromise between handling and ride. Others who are well-respected will likely disagree with me and can provide specific suggestions. The one area that has presented some challenges are the brakes; they were great when the car was stock, but now seem a bit insufficient after stuffing more tire under the car and then increasing the power by 35%. I'm sure that others feel differently, but I suspect that they drive differently than I do and on different tracks. __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 M6 - JRE 650 RWHP kit, AFCO heat exchanger, JPSS V4 aero, Z28 wheels for the twisties and Weld big-n-littles for the dragstrip. 11.193@128.13 in 515' DA

11-11-2016, 05:58 PM	#9
SnowyCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1, 2006 Chevy Equinox Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 833	I just swapped the brake fluid for ate typ2000 dot4. No issues. Change tranny and diff fluid as recommended in the manual. Car is pretty bulletproof. But I just track for fun so might not be pushing as hard as others here. __________________

11-11-2016, 10:24 AM	#3
GONMAD510 Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: CA Bay Area Posts: 248	One of the first things I would look into is cooling. The computer is going to pull timing the more you run because of the heat.

11-11-2016, 07:55 PM	#10
Mikamaro MikeNoMaro Drives: A 2016 Challenger R/T M6 STP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,375 View My Garage	Good stuff guys __________________ Track Day Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mrgoodman2000/videos Built #83817, Born January 18th, Christened June 11th 2010, Stolen October 3rd 2016.

11-12-2016, 09:22 AM	#11
E. Bryant Gearhead Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 252	Start off with fresh fluids, and then go thrash the car for a while before thinking about other upgrades. It's remarkably good on the track when bone-stock, and 99% of the time, the driver will be the limiting factor. The car is fast enough that it takes considerable amounts of skill to exploit all the available performance. Save your pennies for track days, instruction, and lots of tires! __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 M6 - JRE 650 RWHP kit, AFCO heat exchanger, JPSS V4 aero, Z28 wheels for the twisties and Weld big-n-littles for the dragstrip. 11.193@128.13 in 515' DA