Some More V6 LLT Intake Manifold VMAX "BLACK ICE-olator" Info - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Mike Norris · 02-11-2012, 03:47 PM

Hey All,

I have been talking with Pete from VMax 3 or 4 times a day lately working on this V6 LLT upper plenum isolator/insulator discussing product strategies. Pete decide on the product being called the "VMAX BLACK ICE-olator" to play on the phenolic materials color and cooling properties. This is how it will be advertised by VMax and its dealers.

Pete has used this product before on 4 cylinder Hondas with gains of 10-12 HP & TQ. Putting that past success into the V6 LLT was a no brainer and we kept to work well but be as simple as possible.

With Tracy having done a very positive preliminary test last week and myself doing some more stringent tests in the next couple days, there has been quite a spike in interest.

With this surge of interest and the upcoming pre-orders that will ship most likely by Friday next week, Pete and I decided to do some pre-sale support as there will be a lot of questions.

Initial mass produced pieces will start being cut Monday AM and Pete will be there to oversee the process and finished parts. If everything goes well parts will ship shortly after that to the typical VMax dealers that have placed orders. I still have a few unsold pieces available as an FYI.

I also have a preliminary set of instructions that I can e-mail to folks. It is in a newer form of MS Word (.docx) so it will not let me attach it here. Just e-mail me at thevettedr@aol.com or PM me you e-mail address and I will get you a copy. There is no mention of the BLACK ICE-olator in them yet until I get good pictures of the install, but it will give folks a good idea what they are getting into. I will attach a couple pics from these prelim instructions for folks to see. They may be a bit large and apologize for that ahead of time.

I will be looking at the front support bracket to see if the current piece can be modified to work or a decent extension to use. My first thought is that leaving it off or loose is not a good idea, but we will see.

There will be more info over the next couple days for sure. Have a great weekend everyone.

Mike Norris

KMPrenger · 02-11-2012, 05:28 PM

Appreciate this info Mike!

Blacc Mamba · 02-11-2012, 05:43 PM

rtcat600man · 02-11-2012, 06:09 PM

PM sent. Thanks for all your help Mike. These are GREAT times for the LLT owners.

Blacktip · 02-11-2012, 06:50 PM

OHH YEA BABY ....it's that kind of party

mydreamcar · 02-11-2012, 07:41 PM

cmon commision ck, I want to buy this

Mike Norris · 02-12-2012, 05:26 PM

Initial test results are here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202185

Mike Norris

TJ91 · 02-12-2012, 06:05 PM

Thanks soo much Mike!

KMPrenger · 02-12-2012, 06:48 PM

Wow....this is a NO BRAINER mod....even people who don't mod should get this lol.

Will be a huge help for performance in the warmer months and at the track where the cars all get really hot while staging.

Not sure if the gains will be quite this large with a moving on the road car in the cool winter/spring days....but it has to help some. Can't ignore nearly 30 TQ gained at 4,000 rpm. That said, the testing this time was very thorough and proves it isn't just a fluke run.

Bravo...

Rickmaff · 02-12-2012, 09:41 PM

I really don't want to have to re-read the original thread, but is this confirmed to work with the Vararam Intake? If it is I'll be buying one very soon.

Rangore · 02-12-2012, 10:49 PM

Would this affect warranty? My guess is it could.

I'm not a mechanic (putting an intake on is as far as I want to go for DIY under the hood), so for installation would getting it done by a mechanic be the best idea?

TankMorph · 02-13-2012, 06:54 AM

Great job Mike. Tracy and I were both pressed for time when we did our initial testing. Nice to see your results were more or less consistent with what we saw.

I'm getting a tune a porting my heads this week. Maybe I'll get back on the dyno sometime soon and see what happens.

Mike Norris · 02-13-2012, 07:04 AM

We should know if it fits with the Vararam this week as I am supposed to get a car dropped off here this morning with it as well as an exhaust and tune.

Warranty wise, it all depends on your dealer and I always tell folks to have a good relationship with their dealer and see what they have to say. This should not be a big deal, but some places will look for any reason to not do warranty some times.

TankMorph, did you get to do your temp test you talked about comparing yours to a friends car? Thanks for the kind words by the way.

Mike Norris

TankMorph · 02-13-2012, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Norris

TankMorph, did you get to do your temp test you talked about comparing yours to a friends car? Thanks for the kind words by the way.

Not yet. My IR gun apparently walked out of my toolbox.

I'm picking up a new one this afternoon.

02-11-2012, 03:47 PM	#1
Mike Norris Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 592	Some More V6 LLT Intake Manifold VMAX "BLACK ICE-olator" Info Hey All, I have been talking with Pete from VMax 3 or 4 times a day lately working on this V6 LLT upper plenum isolator/insulator discussing product strategies. Pete decide on the product being called the "VMAX BLACK ICE-olator" to play on the phenolic materials color and cooling properties. This is how it will be advertised by VMax and its dealers. Pete has used this product before on 4 cylinder Hondas with gains of 10-12 HP & TQ. Putting that past success into the V6 LLT was a no brainer and we kept to work well but be as simple as possible. With Tracy having done a very positive preliminary test last week and myself doing some more stringent tests in the next couple days, there has been quite a spike in interest. With this surge of interest and the upcoming pre-orders that will ship most likely by Friday next week, Pete and I decided to do some pre-sale support as there will be a lot of questions. Initial mass produced pieces will start being cut Monday AM and Pete will be there to oversee the process and finished parts. If everything goes well parts will ship shortly after that to the typical VMax dealers that have placed orders. I still have a few unsold pieces available as an FYI. I also have a preliminary set of instructions that I can e-mail to folks. It is in a newer form of MS Word (.docx) so it will not let me attach it here. Just e-mail me at thevettedr@aol.com or PM me you e-mail address and I will get you a copy. There is no mention of the BLACK ICE-olator in them yet until I get good pictures of the install, but it will give folks a good idea what they are getting into. I will attach a couple pics from these prelim instructions for folks to see. They may be a bit large and apologize for that ahead of time. I will be looking at the front support bracket to see if the current piece can be modified to work or a decent extension to use. My first thought is that leaving it off or loose is not a good idea, but we will see. There will be more info over the next couple days for sure. Have a great weekend everyone. Mike Norris Attached Images

02-11-2012, 05:28 PM	#2
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Appreciate this info Mike! __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

02-11-2012, 05:43 PM	#3
Blacc Mamba SoCal HT5 Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 954	__________________ Mods: Brembo Brakes/ Pedders Street 1/ Cold Air Inductions CAI/ Vmax CNC TB/ ZL1 Fascia

02-11-2012, 06:09 PM	#4
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	PM sent. Thanks for all your help Mike. These are GREAT times for the LLT owners. __________________ MY BUILD

02-11-2012, 06:50 PM	#5
Blacktip Drives: 2011 1LT Silver RS package Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 461	OHH YEA BABY ....it's that kind of party __________________ .....Well alright,alright..didn't know it was this kind of party

02-11-2012, 07:41 PM	#6
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	cmon commision ck, I want to buy this __________________ CAI intake/ADM Scoop/Stainless Power Headers/Dynatech cat back exhaust/Vitesse Throttle Control/ Ported Throttle Body/QTP Electric Cutouts/ 3.91 gears and janetty rear posi/ Tuned by Janetty racing

02-12-2012, 05:26 PM	#7
Mike Norris Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 592	Initial test results are here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202185 Mike Norris

02-12-2012, 06:05 PM	#8
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	Thanks soo much Mike! __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

02-12-2012, 06:48 PM	#9
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Wow....this is a NO BRAINER mod....even people who don't mod should get this lol. Will be a huge help for performance in the warmer months and at the track where the cars all get really hot while staging. Not sure if the gains will be quite this large with a moving on the road car in the cool winter/spring days....but it has to help some. Can't ignore nearly 30 TQ gained at 4,000 rpm. That said, the testing this time was very thorough and proves it isn't just a fluke run. Bravo... __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

02-12-2012, 09:41 PM	#10
Rickmaff Drives: 2011 1LT M6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fountain Hills, AZ Posts: 50	I really don't want to have to re-read the original thread, but is this confirmed to work with the Vararam Intake? If it is I'll be buying one very soon. __________________

02-12-2012, 10:49 PM	#11
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	Would this affect warranty? My guess is it could. I'm not a mechanic (putting an intake on is as far as I want to go for DIY under the hood), so for installation would getting it done by a mechanic be the best idea? __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

02-13-2012, 06:54 AM	#12
TankMorph More Human Than Human Drives: 2011 1LT IOM M6 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 194	Great job Mike. Tracy and I were both pressed for time when we did our initial testing. Nice to see your results were more or less consistent with what we saw. I'm getting a tune a porting my heads this week. Maybe I'll get back on the dyno sometime soon and see what happens.

02-13-2012, 07:04 AM	#13
Mike Norris Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 592	We should know if it fits with the Vararam this week as I am supposed to get a car dropped off here this morning with it as well as an exhaust and tune. Warranty wise, it all depends on your dealer and I always tell folks to have a good relationship with their dealer and see what they have to say. This should not be a big deal, but some places will look for any reason to not do warranty some times. TankMorph, did you get to do your temp test you talked about comparing yours to a friends car? Thanks for the kind words by the way. Mike Norris

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