EVERYBODY POST YOUR DYNO NUMBERS!(sticky request)

[mydreamcar]

I will say, guy does great work, but the Dyno he was using seemed very old,. it was moveable and he just attached some ramps to it. I kinda thought that Dyno's should be mounted into the ground

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

Nice to actually see the pros clear things up. Did you say 4500 Elevation? Yikes..

Higher than the balls on a Giraffe!

Originally Posted by mydreamcar

next was done after the BBK LT withy HFC,

all variables were roughly the same down to the AFR being 13.3

HP was 251 and tq 238

One again no SAe correction

So I am at a loss what exactly is going on here. I know I need to get Vince a data log to see if any tweaking can be done but something is wrong. Or is it okay

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

you are running too lean, i believe. you should be around 12.1. maybe someone can chime in that knows for sure. that should give you some more hp.

The LLT V6 likes to be around 12.4 - 12.6 AFR from what I've seen personally.

We did an auto with an Airaid CAI and Magnaflow axle-back and the baseline before we installed the ARH LT's w/catted x-pipe was 242.65 RWHP and 228.76 RWTQ. We then installed the ARH LT's with the catted x-pipe and we got 261.33 RWHP and 249.13 RWTQ for a solid gain of 18.68 RWHP and 20.37 RWTQ. The runs were performed on the same day. We then did a Trifecta tune and the final #'s were 265.21 RWHP and 259.37 RWTQ. The tune gained 3.88 RWHP and 10.24 RWTQ.

Headers Run # 3 and the Headers and Trifecta Tune Run # 10


The largest benefit from the tuning was the torque management adjustments, Rear o2 error codes "adjusted for the header" and the shift points. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[mydreamcar]

ok if I have done my calculations correctly

the temp was 60degress
the dew point was 54
the alitmeter was 30.08

giving me a correection factor of .94

so I took 251hp x .94 giving me 23 so is the real number roughly 274hp

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by JDP Motorsports

Higher than the balls on a Giraffe!





The LLT V6 likes to be around 12.4 - 12.6 AFR from what I've seen personally.

We did an auto with an Airaid CAI and Magnaflow axle-back and the baseline before we installed the ARH LT's w/catted x-pipe was 242.65 RWHP and 228.76 RWTQ. We then installed the ARH LT's with the catted x-pipe and we got 261.33 RWHP and 249.13 RWTQ for a solid gain of 18.68 RWHP and 20.37 RWTQ. The runs were performed on the same day. We then did a Trifecta tune and the final #'s were 265.21 RWHP and 259.37 RWTQ. The tune gained 3.88 RWHP and 10.24 RWTQ.

Headers Run # 3 and the Headers and Trifecta Tune Run # 10


The largest benefit from the tuning was the torque management adjustments, Rear o2 error codes "adjusted for the header" and the shift points. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

How far are you from las Vegas? Lol. You seem to be on top of our LLT's and might take a drive to get my car dialed in correctly. Not many shops, if any, in Vegas have a clue about the v6 camaro.

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

How far are you from las Vegas? Lol. You seem to be on top of our LLT's and might take a drive to get my car dialed in correctly. Not many shops, if any, in Vegas have a clue about the v6 camaro.

We're about 6 hours up I-15 N. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[bmorecam]

JDP, in your honest opinion how much drive train loss do you think our v6 camaro get hit with? I been hearing 15% for the longest but your dyno and my dyno and almost every other dynojet's out here seem to dyno stock cars around 240 on average and alot of times even less.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Ok, here are more clear shots of the current dyno. As I've said before, going back dec 3rd. Don't plan on doing anything else, but who knows

Peak is 373.95whp


Looks to be SAE corrected


Afr at 11.46

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

JDP, in your honest opinion how much drive train loss do you think our v6 camaro get hit with? I been hearing 15% for the longest but your dyno and my dyno and almost every other dynojet's out here seem to dyno stock cars around 240 on average and alot of times even less.

I would say the manual's lose around 15-16% and the auto's are around 18-20%.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[Can't_C_Me]

OK I want to do the opposite of the ASE correction now lol. Since most family and friends I speak to go by advertised HP #'s. How do I get the power to the crank from dyno's or by adding mods.

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by JDP Motorsports

I would say the manual's lose around 15-16% and the auto's are around 18-20%.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

So for an example, our member jeff4946 dynoed at your facility 263rwhp with almost every bolt on mods with a tune. Does that mean he only probably gained 1hp?

So let's just say he lost the most at 16%, then that mean stock he should dyno at your place somewhere close to 262hp right? since 16% of 312 is something like 49.

So how does he only lose 15%-16%? because we know there's no way he only could have made 1hp with all those mods.

[Beauwulf]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

So for an example, our member jeff4946 dynoed at your facility 263rwhp with almost every bolt on mods with a tune. Does that mean he only probably gained 1hp?

So let's just say he lost the most at 16%, then that mean stock he should dyno at your place somewhere close to 262hp right? since 16% of 312 is something like 49.

So how does he only lose 15%-16%? because we know there's no way he only could have made 1hp with all those mods.

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

So for an example, our member jeff4946 dynoed at your facility 263rwhp with almost every bolt on mods with a tune. Does that mean he only probably gained 1hp?

So let's just say he lost the most at 16%, then that mean stock he should dyno at your place somewhere close to 262hp right? since 16% of 312 is something like 49.

So how does he only lose 15%-16%? because we know there's no way he only could have made 1hp with all those mods.

I started doing some thinking after your post... Here are some facts. It appears based on the stock automatic #'s below that the auto lost around 25% IF the starting point was 312... We'll have to test a Stock manual sometime to get some real info. Powertrain loss can vary car to car and 15-20% is a generalization but I've found it to be true in most SS applications.

STOCK 2010 Camaro V6 Auto then with an Airaid CAI -230.51 RWHP and 221.48 RWTQ Stock 242.65 RWHP and 228.76 RWTQ w/Airaid ONLY


Stock 2010 Camaro V6 Auto compared to 2010 Camaro V6 Auto with Airaid, Magnaflow Axle-Back, ARH LT's with catted mid section and Trifecta Tune 34.7 RWHP and 37.89 RWTQ Gain - Different Auto V6's however...


jeff4946 (Red) vs. 2010 V6 Manual with Airaid, LS3 cat-back with Magnaflow tru-x, Magnaflow mufflers and VMAX TB - 3 gear pull as it wasn't tuned and we hit the speed limiter in 4th** Power would have been greater in 4th by 5-8 RWHP**


In the above example jeff4946 made more power down low but lost out up top to a lightly modded V6 manual... The auto in graph # 2 made more power than jeff4946 through the auto. Every car is different and that is why you can't say they all make the same power. These test were all run on the same dyno. I'm not sure if jeff4946's Camaro has a mechanical issue or not but it clearly is on the lower side given his mods. I would like to run it again and remove the breather to see if that is causing some issues, I'm not a fan of those personally...

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[jeff4946]

Originally Posted by JDP Motorsports

I started doing some thinking after your post... Here are some facts. It appears based on the stock automatic #'s below that the auto lost around 25% IF the starting point was 312... We'll have to test a Stock manual sometime to get some real info. Powertrain loss can vary car to car and 15-20% is a generalization but I've found it to be true in most SS applications.

STOCK 2010 Camaro V6 Auto then with an Airaid CAI -230.51 RWHP and 221.48 RWTQ Stock 242.65 RWHP and 228.76 RWTQ w/Airaid ONLY


Stock 2010 Camaro V6 Auto compared to 2010 Camaro V6 Auto with Airaid, Magnaflow Axle-Back, ARH LT's with catted mid section and Trifecta Tune 34.7 RWHP and 37.89 RWTQ Gain - Different Auto V6's however...


jeff4946 (Red) vs. 2010 V6 Manual with Airaid, LS3 cat-back with Magnaflow tru-x, Magnaflow mufflers and VMAX TB - 3 gear pull as it wasn't tuned and we hit the speed limiter in 4th** Power would have been greater in 4th by 5-8 RWHP**


In the above example jeff4946 made more power down low but lost out up top to a lightly modded V6 manual... The auto in graph # 2 made more power than jeff4946 through the auto. Every car is different and that is why you can't say they all make the same power. These test were all run on the same dyno. I'm not sure if jeff4946's Camaro has a mechanical issue or not but it clearly is on the lower side given his mods. I would like to run it again and remove the breather to see if that is causing some issues, I'm not a fan of those personally...

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

Well, I got rid of the breather, and im going to rejet,and go aliitle leaner on the fuel side on the nitrous. I would bet the gearing is showing itself there too. Those 3.73s are probably getting the power there in the lower rpms, and fading out up top. I will be down again soon, but I just rolled in, off vacation, so I gotta work another long stretch, and then maybe back down there.

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by jeff4946

Well, I got rid of the breather, and im going to rejet,and go aliitle leaner on the fuel side on the nitrous. I would bet the gearing is showing itself there too. Those 3.73s are probably getting the power there in the lower rpms, and fading out up top. I will be down again soon, but I just rolled in, off vacation, so I gotta work another long stretch, and then maybe back down there.

Nice! I was simply showing some comparisons on cars we've done here to answer some questions regarding power differences. Since we didn't do a baseline run on your car 100% stock it is hard to determine how much your mods have give you. I wasn't comparing the NOS run but rather the NA run. The gears shouldn't have any affect on the power through out the RPM band. I know the V6 is very sensitive to velocity and the ported manifold may have some affects as well. VMAX has been testing for awhile now and they're still working on their set up.

Keep me posted and please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Have a good one and I'll talk to you soon!

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007