02-22-2014, 12:52 AM | #29 |
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This is America. We are the Land Of Opportunity. When you have opportunity, business thrives. When business thrives, it offers choices. When you have choices, you can choose what you want. When you can choose what you want, you have options and can get what you like. Is this a great Country or what....
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02-22-2014, 07:56 AM | #30 |
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Yes it is a GREAT COUNTRY, and Calloway while offering this usually over looks things and charges too much for what is a performance bump and does not look else where but to add their badging to everything. I am sure others will blow this deal out of the water on a performance based aspect dollar for dollar as they have with the other Camaros and even add upgrades to the suspension and such for the same price and cheaper with out all the bling.
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02-22-2014, 08:13 AM | #31 |
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I respect callaway. But, I'd take a 615-630 horse NA heads cam exhaust build over it anyday. GPI did a z06 vette and posted a while back with those numbers. Easily done on the ls7.
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02-22-2014, 08:24 AM | #32 |
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^^^ This... the whole point of the LS7 was a N/A engine for the road track.
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02-22-2014, 08:31 AM | #33 |
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Callaway does some great things but I think they are into make cars that are collectable more than anything. I have always thought that the LS7 didn't take to SC that well. Twin turbo's seem to work better.
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02-22-2014, 10:00 AM | #34 |
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Heat soak from the SC is going to affect it's performance after a few track runs. NA upgrades only
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02-22-2014, 11:17 AM | #35 | |
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But now we have to deal with turbo lag Hell I'm just gonna throw a iron block lsx 427, big centri supercharger and my fat ass in the drivers seat and see if I can out drive the handling of the Z/28 after that
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02-22-2014, 09:20 PM | #36 |
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Lol, and already people are taking a track car and turning it into a drag car.
I wonder how many Z/28's will be ruined by being turned into drag cars instead of being used for their intended purpose. This is just hilarious to me. If the power output is just not ennough from the stock LS7 for whatever circuit you're racing, a simple cam/heads/headers/manifold will and a few tweaks will give you MORE than enough power without adding un-necessary amounts of weight.
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02-22-2014, 09:42 PM | #37 |
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Proving you can, indeed, make a sow's ear out of a silk purse...
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02-23-2014, 12:55 AM | #38 | |
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But in all seriousness what do you all have against having fun at both tracks? There are a hell of a lot more dragstrips out there than road courses. 90% of these cars aren't going to be driven anyway so why not let the few that have the chance to get out have fun on any track? I really doubt anybody here complaining about the extra weight throwing the car off balance can drive good enough to notice the difference anyway so what's the problem if somebody wants this particular setup?
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02-23-2014, 07:52 AM | #39 |
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More late 60's and early 70's Z/28's ended up on drag strips than road courses. Do what you want with them and have fun.
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02-23-2014, 10:46 AM | #40 |
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Yeah some will do it, however it's like putting ketchup on a prime filet mignon.
Or like using vise-grips instead of a wrench when the wrench is the appropriate choice. Taking it to a drag strip to see what it can do, sure. However it should be recognized the suspension is designed completely wrong to be effective for drag racing.
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I think it was said best by Edmunds Inside Line Chief Road Test Editor, Chris Walton when he reviewed a Callaway Camaro: Quote:
So not sure what details might have been overlooked in your opinion. In fact, a few mos. ago, someone even came onto Camaro5 and copied/pasted Callaway's Camaro package, asking what they should charge for theirs. Fresh out of the woordowrk, it was interesting to see them use the Callaway package for their benchmark Anyways, I've always thought it's been a fair price for the performance, possibly a bargain, and enjoyed my Callaways over the years. |
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02-23-2014, 11:47 AM | #42 | |
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What does a SC652 Z/28 weigh (wet)? Is it warranted for recreational on track use? Is it guaranteed to run at 9/10 all day at the track? (30 minute sessions in 100f ambient?) The press release does not specify it has anything other than stock ceramic brakes, is this correct? I am so over reading "stick a cam in it!" (or a turbo or a blower) when I know from experience the big HP braggarts are typically the rolling chicanes at the track with the Miatas passing them in the corners. 652 HP is so far beyond what a recreational tracker could ever use it is ludicrous. May as well call it a Callaway Coffin for anyone stupid enough to turn off the traction control. I sure as hell would never right seat a student in one. Instead of the same old "buy a cam!" BS, people would be far better served (for a lifetime) to invest instead in a multi-day driving school. On a road course, you can't buy skill and lap times, they're earned.
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