2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat from Motor Trend

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

A 4400lb car with 475hp is going to be as quick/fast as a 4250lb car with 550hp? Please show us that this Shatpack defies physics!

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/24/2...k-spin-review/

According to Autoblog, the Scatpack weighs in around 4100lbs, has 485hp, and an 8 speed auto. If these numbers are true then the 65hp advantage that the CTS-V has could be neutralized by the 150lb weight advantage and 2 extra gears.

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/24/2...k-spin-review/

According to Autoblog, the Scatpack weighs in around 4100lbs, has 485hp, and an 8 speed auto. If these numbers are true then the 65hp advantage that the CTS-V has could be neutralized by the 150lb weight advantage and 2 extra gears.

According to Autoblog...Autoblog didn't weigh or test the car. The only scatpack reviews I can find are for the Challenger:

Car&Driver: 0-60 in 4.4, 12.9 1/4mile at 113.0mph, 4226lbs
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.2, 12.6 1/4mile at 112.3mph, 4235lbs automatic

Even the Challenger weighs as much as the V sedan and is no where near as quick/fast in manual or automatic form. newmoon likes to confuse fact with fantasy.

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

According to Autoblog...Autoblog didn't weigh or test the car. The only scatpack reviews I can find are for the Challenger:

Car&Driver: 0-60 in 4.4, 12.9 1/4mile at 113.0mph, 4226lbs
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.2, 12.6 1/4mile at 112.3mph, 4235lbs automatic

I don't believe C&D or motor tend have tested it with the new 8 speed auto. I believe those numbers are with the old 5 speed auto.

[wakespeak]

Porsche Macan SUV 400 HP and 4544 lbs 0-60 in 4.2 seconds 12.9 in the qtr mile. Gearing.

[rocket403]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Even the Challenger weighs as much as the V sedan and is no where near as quick/fast in manual or automatic form. newmoon likes to confuse fact with fantasy.

Better pull you head out of the sand
I have seen more than 1 person on the net post times in the low 12's stock and with DR's in the 11's for the SP 392 A8 I would think that is running CTS-V times that is a Fact Jack

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

I don't believe C&D or motor tend have tested it with the new 8 speed auto. I believe those numbers are with the old 5 speed auto.

C&D tested with the 6-speed manual. MotorTrend tested with an A8. Closer to Mustang GT, Camaro SS performance in a straight-line. Around a corner...well, we all know how that turns out.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._gt/specs.html

Originally Posted by rocket403

Better pull you head out of the sand
I have seen more than 1 person on the net post times in the low 12's stock and with DR's in the 11's for the SP 392 A8 I would think that is running CTS-V times that is a Fact Jack

Funny, MotorTrend, Car&Driver, Autoblog, Edmunds, Road&Track haven't got their hands on a Charger shatpack to test but ONE PERSON on the INTERNET is running low 12's...See above, Challenger shatpack with A8 ran 12.6 @ 112mph. Far closer to a Mustang GT than any CTS-V. Show us these basement 12's at 119mph.

[rocket403]

All Scat Pack 1/4 mile times are for the Challenger right now as we have seen with the Hellcat Challenger and Charger times will be very close as spring arrives we will see the Charger at the track. If you look on the Challenger forum there are some great times for the SP RT A8 12.2 and best I have seen for the 6 sp is 12.5 or 12.6 times

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by rocket403

All Scat Pack 1/4 mile times are for the Challenger right now as we have seen with the Hellcat Challenger and Charger times will be very close as spring arrives we will see the Charger at the track. If you look on the Challenger forum there are some great times for the SP RT A8 12.2 and best I have seen for the 6 sp is 12.5 or 12.6 times

Yeah, yeah and CTS-V are running in the 11's bone stock per V forums. Shatpack isn't going to touch a V. Wishful thinking though.

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

C&D tested with the 6-speed manual. MotorTrend tested with an A8.

That 12.6 is slower than I expected but definitely an improvement over the 12.9 the auto 5 put down.

[rocket403]

Stock SP runs 12.28
you will find in the spring when the tracks open that the Scatpack will be closer to 12.0 and the 6sp will be 12.6

[DDoug]

Dodge opens up orders for new Challenger ‘Shaker’ models

The 2015 Dodge Challenger Shaker

The Dodge brand this morning announced that customers can now begin ordering the new 2015 Dodge Challenger R/T Shaker and R/T Plus Shaker and next month begin ordering the high-performance 392 HEMI® Scat Pack Shaker model.

Designed to deliver maximum performance and the most Dodge muscle-car heritage in the brand’s lineup, the new Challenger R/T Shaker, R/T Plus Shaker and first-ever 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker models celebrate 45 years of the functional “cold-air grabbing” hood scoop that “shakes” with the legendary HEMI V-8 engine’s movement.

“After selling out last year’s Shaker model production in just four days, our hardcore Challenger customers demanded we bring back the Shaker—plus offer more power and more performance,” Tim Kuniskis, President and CEO—Dodge and SRT Brands, said. “We listened, and for 2015, the new Dodge Challenger lineup offers the legendary Shaker hood expanded to include our 485 horsepower HEMI V-8 delivering up to 113 more horsepower than last year, plus even more track-proven hardware and technology—combination our enthusiasts have been waiting for.”


45 years of the Shaker hood
As the model name suggests, the legendary “cold-air grabbing” Shaker not only looks good with its Satin Black center-mounted hood scoop, snorkeling up from the engine compartment, it also directs cooler air back into the 5.7-liter, or now 6.4-liter (392 cubic inches), HEMI V-8 engine. And, like the original 1970 Challenger R/T with the Shaker hood, the new 2015 Challenger models continue the Dodge tradition of an engine-mounted hood scoop that “shakes” with the powertrain’s movement.

Designed for muscle-car buffs who can’t help but tinker with their toys, the Challenger R/T Shaker, R/T Plus Shaker and 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker models feature a functional Shaker hood with Mopar cold-air intake, conical air filter and optimized air box for improved airflow and performance. Lift the hood and enthusiasts will also be treated to an under-hood “Shaker” graphic—reminiscent of the 1970s original.

Challenger R/T Shaker
For drivers who like to share their performance credentials, the new Challenger R/T Shaker adds a functional Shaker hood with cold-air induction and Mopar conical air filter to the Challenger R/T model’s 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine delivering up to 375 horsepower and 410 lb.-ft. of torque. In addition the package adds hood-to-tail Satin Black Shaker graphic stripes, Shaker hood badges, black deck-lid spoiler with Parkview backup camera, “Shaker” startup screen, Satin Black fuel-filler door with heritage “FUEL” lettering, projector fog lamps, 20-inch polished aluminum satin finish wheels with black pockets and premium black cloth performance seats with Ballistic two inserts and Tungsten accent stitching.

The new TorqueFlite eight-speed transmission is available (372 horsepower, 400 lb.-ft. of torque) and includes Sport mode with paddle shifters, plus Fuel Saver Technology with four-cylinder mode and interactive Decel Fuel Shut Off (iDFSO).


Super Track Pak
For maximum performance on road and track, Challenger R/T Shaker includes the Super Track Pak with a full complement of race-bred chassis upgrades, including a 0.5-inch lowered suspension, high-performance Bilstein shock absorbers, high-performance brakes, three-mode electronic stability control (ESC) calibration with “full off” and three-season Goodyear Eagle F1 tires (Goodyear Eagle RSA all-season performance tires available). For a more road-holding stance, the Dodge Challenger R/T Shaker is available with 20-inch-by-9-inch matte black lightweight forged-aluminum wheels (late availability).

The 2015 Challenger R/T Shaker model has a starting U.S. manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $35,495 (all prices exclude $995 destination).

Challenger R/T Plus Shaker
Adding to the Challenger R/T Shaker model’s standard equipment, the Challenger R/T Plus Shaker includes unique heated and ventilated napa leather performance seats with “Shaker” logo stitched in black and Ruby Red, or black and sepia; unique door bolsters with graduated accent stitching, premium floor mats with “Dodge” logo, Dodge Performance leather-wrapped steering wheel with power tilt-and-telescoping column, Uconnect 8.4-inch touchscreen display with AM/FM/SiriusXM Radio, Bluetooth, 3-D navigation-capable and Uconnect Access with 9-1-1 call/Assist Call, six premium speakers and 276-watt digital amplifier. For a more road-holding stance, the Dodge Challenger R/T Plus Shaker is available with 20-inch-by-9-inch matte black lightweight forged-aluminum wheels.

Expanding on the Super Track Pak’s capability, the Challenger R/T Plus Shaker adds a shortcut button to the new Dodge Performance Pages embedded in the class-exclusive Uconnect 8.4-inch touch screen radio that provides visible performance information, such as programmable shift light indicator, reaction time, 0-60 times, G-force indicator and lap times in the 7-inch TFT customizable cluster display.

The 2015 Challenger R/T Plus Shaker model has a starting U.S. MSRP of $38,495.

Challenger 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker
As the “King of all Shakers,” the 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker ups-the-ante with its best-in-class 485 horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque, delivering up to 113 more horsepower and a 65-lb.-ft. leap in torque compared with the 5.7-liter Challenger R/T Shaker models—representing more than a 30 percent jump in horsepower and 18 percent jump in torque. The coupe’s best-in-class power enables it to turn mid 4-second 0-60 mph times and low 12-second quarter-mile times.

Adding to the standard equipment found on the Dodge Challenger R/T Plus Shaker, the first-ever Challenger 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker includes a 6.4-liter (392 cubic inches) HEMI V-8 engine with 485 horsepower and exposed functional shaker hood with engine-mounted high-flow cold-air induction, Tremec six-speed manual transmission (new TorqueFlite eight-speed transmission with paddle shifters is available), Scat Pack fender badge, 392 HEMI Shaker hood badge, 180 mph primary speedometer, active stainless steel performance dual exhaust system and 220-amp alternator. In addition, the Challenger 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker takes the Super Track Pak suspension to the next level with a Brembo four-piston high-performance brake package and 20-inch-by-9-inch polished aluminum wheels.

Scat Pack Appearance Group
With the available Scat Pack Appearance Group, the Challenger 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker model replaces the hood-to-tail Satin Black Shaker graphic stripes for the signature Satin Black Bumble Bee rear stripe—a Dodge heritage cue that dates back to 1968.

Additional equipment includes Scat Pack-logo embroidered performance seats in black or Ruby Red napa leather, animated “Scat Pack” Bumble Bee splash screen and 20-inch-by-9-inch lightweight forged matte black aluminum wheels. MSRP for the Scat Pack Appearance Group is $1,100.

The 2015 Challenger 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker model has a starting U.S. MSRP of $42,495 (excluding $1,000 gas-guzzler tax with manual transmission).

The 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker includes an active stainless steel performance dual exhaust system.

Heritage Hues
Heritage and high-impact exterior colors for the Challenger Shaker model range include B5 Blue, Sublime Green and TorRed. Other factory colors include Billet Silver Metallic, Bright White, Pitch Black and Granite Crystal Metallic.

Dodge continues to build on the Scat Pack legacy
In 1968, Dodge united the brand’s performance vehicle enthusiasts through the creation of the “Scat Pack Club.” The Scat Pack Club quickly transformed and expanded from an enthusiast club, into an over-arching Dodge performance philosophy.

This shared philosophy ultimately evolved into the desire for even more performance. Dodge and Mopar brands partnered to respect this need by delivering factory-engineered performance stage kits that would ultimately become known as “Scat Packs.”

For the 2015 model year, the Challenger R/T Scat Pack and 392 HEMI Scat Pack Shaker models were created to deliver even more performance to the Dodge lineup. With a best-in-class 485 horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque, track-ready performance features, heritage styling and the availability of the class-exclusive TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission—these two Challenger models are targeted directly at hardcore Dodge enthusiasts.

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Stock SP runs 12.28
you will find in the spring when the tracks open that the Scatpack will be closer to 12.0 and the 6sp will be 12.6

Both times STILL slower than stock V's. Same day head to head runs the shatpack just can't keep up. 12.28 isn't 11's now is it? That Challenger trapped 113mph, that's a FAR cry from 119mph. Don't get me wrong, it's quick, just like a Mustang GT.

[rocket403]

It is low 12's just Like I have pointed out in the past 3-4 posts and it is very close to the V times, a Scatpack has run 11.85 on DR's it is not the 12.6 that you posted they run. CD runs are much slower that what real times people will get with these cars.

It is faster than a Mustang GT and Camaro SS it is in and around ZL1 times for much lower cost, with the starting price of 39K vs 72k of the V that is definitely Lower.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Both times STILL slower than stock V's. Same day head to head runs the shatpack just can't keep up. 12.28 isn't 11's now is it? That Challenger trapped 113mph, that's a FAR cry from 119mph. Don't get me wrong, it's quick, just like a Mustang GT.

Another ScatPack has gone 12:15 bone stock but that doesn't count right. Where are the articles which show Motortrend or Car & Driver getting 11s out of the CTS-V, according to your logic a car is only capable of running what they say it will run, so unless you can produce the article then the CTS-V is only a low 12-sec car correct?