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2cnd chance · 11-06-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

My Z Dream...

I once said that I'm not an engineer, and so I would like to lay out goals, and let the guys who know what they're doing get there.....yeah, well -- suspend that for a little bit.

I'd like the Z28 to:

-Look identical to Leno's car...every vent, light, and body line.
-Have an interior identical to Leno's car, suede/leather except I think they should replace the gunmetal facias with something more shiny, and high-class.
-Include MSRC (Magnetic shocks), and be tuned to ZR1 levels, so it can sustain +1G of lat. accel.
-Skinny-spoke wheels(like Leno's car), but keep them at 20", only because less than this starts to look small in the wheel-wells, imo
-Wide tires (305s in the back, 275-285s up front...or 305s up front...)
-Keep the stock brakes, but upgrade the rotors, and paint the calipers blue, or red
-Have an all-aluminum frame/body...to reduce the weight to roughly 3600lbs.
-Include a ~6L DI V8 with VVT, and E85 capability (~500hp, 27mpg hwy)
-Be offered in an automatic transmission, sans AFM (not because I don't like the system...just because.)
-Include HUD, memory seats, and all the standard features currently in the 2SS
-Offer Recaro seats upgrade
-Cost around $45-$48k MSRP.

This would result in a car with a p/w ratio greater than the CTS-V....

.......

sign me up!

2cnd chance · 11-06-2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Boxmonkeyracing, I swear I was the second post on your thread.

I had inquired as to whether you had to have DI or if just meeting the HP and Torque numbers would be ok for you.

And here is my Z wish list. And believe me it is MY wish list. There are no hints or hidden items.

Start with a 2SS

Add the following from the Z06

LS7
Transmission
Brakes

Then

Lower the suspension 1"
20 Inch BBS Wheels
Body kit and rear fascia from the Leno car
Carbon Fiber hood styled the same as the Leno car
LED Fog lamps from the Leno car
Afterburner taillamps from the show car
Recaro seats

I think that's it.

sign me up again!

I need a bigger garage

2cnd chance · 11-06-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

It's a good plan, Dragoneye. But the aluminum body would be $$$$. Close to 5 or 6 Grand, just guessing.

And MR shocks are 2,000 on a Corvette, so you could be in the ball park other than the lower weight.

what if just the front fenders in addition to the hood?

MikesZ · 11-06-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

what if just the front fenders in addition to the hood?

Or hood and trunk lid?

ShnOmac · 11-07-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

My Z Dream...
-Look identical to Leno's car...every vent, light, and body line.
-Have an interior identical to Leno's car, suede/leather except I think they should replace the gunmetal facias with something more shiny, and high-class.
-Include MSRC (Magnetic shocks), and be tuned to ZR1 levels, so it can sustain +1G of lat. accel.
-Skinny-spoke wheels(like Leno's car), but keep them at 20", only because less than this starts to look small in the wheel-wells, imo
-Wide tires (305s in the back, 275-285s up front...or 305s up front...)
-Keep the stock brakes, but upgrade the rotors, and paint the calipers blue, or red
-Have an all-aluminum frame/body...to reduce the weight to roughly 3600lbs.
-Include a ~6L DI V8 with VVT, and E85 capability (~500hp, 27mpg hwy)
-Be offered in an automatic transmission, sans AFM (not because I don't like the system...just because.)
-Include HUD, memory seats, and all the standard features currently in the 2SS
-Offer Recaro seats upgrade
-Cost around $45-$48k MSRP.

A few tweaks for my taste and you just made my list for me...

Im good with 19" wheels after hearing the pedders guys talk about the difference between the 19 and 20's..... 305's on all corners and Im gooood!

*radz28* · 11-07-2009, 11:57 AM

THE, Z28 dream:

LS9
TR6060
Hardened drivetrain
CCM brakes off of the ZR1
ZR1-sized wheels/tires
JINX-styled body
Adjustable coil-overs
Lightened a few hundred pounds without loosing RS content
HUD
Leather
Recaros
Affordable, lol

A car like a Bimmer or Merc' that you can drive to the track in complete comfort; blow-away everything else in the price range; drive home in one piece in complete comfort and drive everyday. Is that too much to ask?!

Number 3 · 11-07-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz282003

THE, Z28 dream:

LS9
TR6060
Hardened drivetrain
CCM brakes off of the ZR1
ZR1-sized wheels/tires
JINX-styled body
Adjustable coil-overs
Lightened a few hundred pounds without loosing RS content
HUD
Leather
Recaros
Affordable, lol

A car like a Bimmer or Merc' that you can drive to the track in complete comfort; blow-away everything else in the price range; drive home in one piece in complete comfort and drive everyday. Is that too much to ask?!

and of course "affordable" is a relative term

*radz28* · 11-07-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

and of course "affordable" is a relative term

No kidding. How about around GT500 territory

That'll be a cold day in Hell

Hey - a guy can dream, right

boxmonkeyracing · 11-07-2009, 03:00 PM

ok I updated the op. I want this thread to just list what you want for the Z28. and if you feel like explaining why go on ahead. but no arguing plese.

2cnd chance · 11-07-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz282003

THE, Z28 dream:

LS9
TR6060
Hardened drivetrain
CCM brakes off of the ZR1
ZR1-sized wheels/tires
JINX-styled body
Adjustable coil-overs
Lightened a few hundred pounds without loosing RS content
HUD
Leather
Recaros
Affordable, lol

A car like a Bimmer or Merc' that you can drive to the track in complete comfort; blow-away everything else in the price range; drive home in one piece in complete comfort and drive everyday. Is that too much to ask?!

No!

Angrybird 12 · 11-07-2009, 08:24 PM

I'd go for something like the first Z/28...1967.. Light weight, small displacement with relatively high output with no outstanding markings with wheels designed like the LS wheels only larger for wider tires. and all the best suspension goodies that would make it outhandle anything in it's class...in otherwords the ultimate sleeper.

*DGthe3* · 11-09-2009, 01:09 PM

Engine roughly equal to LS7* in revs, hp, and torque, with dry sump oiling
Fibreglass (or possibly aluminum) front fenders, door skins, and trunk lid
LS interior features
no sunroof or premium sound options
light weight seats (none of that heavy heated power leather stuff!)
revised aerodynamics for improved downforce
larger brakes
improved suspension
lighter, wider wheels
less sound deadening
more aggressive gearing

Target weight would be around 3600 lbs and cost in the mid to high 40's.

* this is assuming the LS7 is being discontinued shortly, if not...use it!

*radz28* · 11-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Engine roughly equal to LS7* in revs, hp, and torque, with dry sump oiling
Fibreglass (or possibly aluminum) front fenders, door skins, and trunk lid
LS interior features
no sunroof or premium sound options
light weight seats (none of that heavy heated power leather stuff!)
revised aerodynamics for improved downforce
larger brakes
improved suspension
lighter, wider wheels
less sound deadening
more aggressive gearing

Target weight would be around 3600 lbs and cost in the mid to high 40's.

* this is assuming the LS7 is being discontinued shortly, if not...use it!

That's hardcore Camaro porn you're talking about there

AGM76 · 11-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Dust off the old tools and make the original just how it was, but missing a lug nut. Then launder it through some third party source to get around whatever laws they need to. I want that.

Or give me the Leno car body and interior (painted), minus the drivetrain and suspension and let me put what I want it there.

11-07-2009, 11:57 AM	#48
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,198 View My Garage	THE, Z28 dream: LS9 TR6060 Hardened drivetrain CCM brakes off of the ZR1 ZR1-sized wheels/tires JINX-styled body Adjustable coil-overs Lightened a few hundred pounds without loosing RS content HUD Leather Recaros Affordable, lol A car like a Bimmer or Merc' that you can drive to the track in complete comfort; blow-away everything else in the price range; drive home in one piece in complete comfort and drive everyday. Is that too much to ask?! __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

11-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#53
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	I'd go for something like the first Z/28...1967.. Light weight, small displacement with relatively high output with no outstanding markings with wheels designed like the LS wheels only larger for wider tires. and all the best suspension goodies that would make it outhandle anything in it's class...in otherwords the ultimate sleeper. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

11-09-2009, 01:09 PM	#54
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Engine roughly equal to LS7* in revs, hp, and torque, with dry sump oiling Fibreglass (or possibly aluminum) front fenders, door skins, and trunk lid LS interior features no sunroof or premium sound options light weight seats (none of that heavy heated power leather stuff!) revised aerodynamics for improved downforce larger brakes improved suspension lighter, wider wheels less sound deadening more aggressive gearing Target weight would be around 3600 lbs and cost in the mid to high 40's. * this is assuming the LS7 is being discontinued shortly, if not...use it! __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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11-10-2009, 11:38 AM	#56
AGM76 Drives: 1995 z28 - 2000 SS - 08' vette Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 113	Dust off the old tools and make the original just how it was, but missing a lug nut. Then launder it through some third party source to get around whatever laws they need to. I want that. Or give me the Leno car body and interior (painted), minus the drivetrain and suspension and let me put what I want it there.