How much will gears help 0-60 time? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

E.T. · 03-21-2012, 06:31 AM

Not that it is bad now, but I'm just wondering what kind of 0-60 time I can expect to pull by going from stock 3.27 gears to 3.70? (see sig for mods)

2011 SS · 03-21-2012, 06:45 AM

Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.

SixGracing · 03-21-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 SS

Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.

A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.

IROCanSS · 03-21-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 SS

Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.

No way hes 385 rwhp... hes A6 (obvious by the 3.27 rear gear) with intake, catback exhaust and a scanner tune, so with his mods, hes 330-350 rwhp MAX.

He won't come close to 385 without headers, hiflow cats and a real tune... not taking anything away from Ted's tunes, just 385 from an A6 is damn good so it takes a lot to get there!

Furthermore, you dont usually need to worry about breakage on the A6 cars, much less drivetrain stress than on the M6.

OP: I had (HAD) 4.10 gears... it was BLISS untill they exploded. Gears are GREAT on these cars but VERY expensive. Have you priced them yet?

MikeOD · 03-21-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SixGracing

A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.

He means 0-60 mph, not 60 feet.

scottywheels · 03-21-2012, 07:16 AM

What kinds of gains have you auto guys seen in the gear swap at the track.? I have gone 1.60 60 ft already with the stock 3.27 gears

SixGracing · 03-21-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeOD

He means 0-60 mph, not 60 feet.

That makes more sense.

SixGracing · 03-21-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scottywheels

What kinds of gains have you auto guys seen in the gear swap at the track.? I have gone 1.60 60 ft already with the stock 3.27 gears

That's a tricky question. I think you start running into tire and suspension issues when you start moving up in gears. If you change gearing, you are more than likely going to have to spend money on suspension mods to make the car hook. You might get worse times from the spinning.

2011 SS · 03-21-2012, 07:39 AM

Sorry, I have an M6 so I'm always used to giving advice about what I think my car would be like if I had done said mods, I no clue Autos had 3.27 gears, I'm sorry.

2011 SS · 03-21-2012, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SixGracing

A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.

I meant 0-60 times, and you drive an automatic that may be why you think a 2.0 is barely acceptable, I can't get less than a 2.6 without DR's, but this is my FIRST manual car.

E.T. · 03-21-2012, 08:04 AM

Yep, I was asking about 0-60, not 60'.

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

No way hes 385 rwhp... hes A6 (obvious by the 3.27 rear gear) with intake, catback exhaust and a scanner tune, so with his mods, hes 330-350 rwhp MAX.

He won't come close to 385 without headers, hiflow cats and a real tune... not taking anything away from Ted's tunes, just 385 from an A6 is damn good so it takes a lot to get there!

Furthermore, you dont usually need to worry about breakage on the A6 cars, much less drivetrain stress than on the M6.

OP: I had (HAD) 4.10 gears... it was BLISS untill they exploded. Gears are GREAT on these cars but VERY expensive. Have you priced them yet?

Haven't dyno'd so I can say what I'm putting to the wheels. I know gears aren't going to add any actual HP, but from what I've read, it will make the car feel a lot stronger, and that's what I'm concerned with. It's nice that these care will do 170+, but I'd rather have that seat of the pants feeling when driving around town and staying within legal limits.

I saw that the 3.70s run about 6 or 7 hundred online, but I have a gear/trans shop right around the corner from me and they are working in getting me a quote. I think they said labor would run about 80 bucks an hour.

Padre · 03-21-2012, 08:19 AM

I saw no gains in my sixty (not 0-60, but it's a good indicator) when I went from 3.27 to 3.45. But I'm sure a bigger gear like 3.73 or 3.91 or 4.10 would make a difference. Personally, I think 3.73's (or 3.70, whichever) are a good all around gear for a bolt-on automatic.

Padre

scottywheels · 03-21-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SixGracing

That's a tricky question. I think you start running into tire and suspension issues when you start moving up in gears. If you change gearing, you are more than likely going to have to spend money on suspension mods to make the car hook. You might get worse times from the spinning.

I dont care about spining, I have a pure slick on the car and suspension.

fldrummer · 03-22-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 SS

I meant 0-60 times, and you drive an automatic that may be why you think a 2.0 is barely acceptable, I can't get less than a 2.6 without DR's, but this is my FIRST manual car.

I've only been to the track once-- before my suspension mods and got a 2.2 60' on all-season tires and 4.10 gears on the first try.

Did you ease into the throttle or were you spinning your tires?... Anyway, gears made a night and day difference in the get up and go factor for me--still my favorite mod, to date!

03-21-2012, 06:31 AM	#1
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,251	How much will gears help 0-60 time? Not that it is bad now, but I'm just wondering what kind of 0-60 time I can expect to pull by going from stock 3.27 gears to 3.70? (see sig for mods) __________________

03-21-2012, 07:16 AM	#6
scottywheels Drives: 2010 A6 SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 525	What kinds of gains have you auto guys seen in the gear swap at the track.? I have gone 1.60 60 ft already with the stock 3.27 gears __________________ Scott(Retired Navy)(Paralyzed Triathlete) New Car 99 Camaro SS with Dart 427, F1x, Rossler 210, 9 inch and BS3... scary ride SOLD 2010 A6 ss/rs White-VORTECH YSI/LPE fuel system/ID 850's/LG Motorsports full Exhaust/Protorque 3400 stall/Livernois Stage 3 Heads/Cam/Bogarts/ Moroso subframes/JRE Rear with 3:70 gears/Aluminium DS/line lock/drag alignment/Suspension/JW Racing 10 pt cage/13.6 psi 719.34 rwhp 558.4 TQ/ Best Pass 1.51 60ft 10.08 136.78 mph JRE Built

03-21-2012, 08:19 AM	#12
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	I saw no gains in my sixty (not 0-60, but it's a good indicator) when I went from 3.27 to 3.45. But I'm sure a bigger gear like 3.73 or 3.91 or 4.10 would make a difference. Personally, I think 3.73's (or 3.70, whichever) are a good all around gear for a bolt-on automatic. Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

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03-21-2012, 06:45 AM	#2
2011 SS Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ok Posts: 196	Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.

03-21-2012, 07:39 AM	#9
2011 SS Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ok Posts: 196	Sorry, I have an M6 so I'm always used to giving advice about what I think my car would be like if I had done said mods, I no clue Autos had 3.27 gears, I'm sorry.