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RubyCamaro · 03-31-2015, 10:22 PM

Black&WhiteEnvy · 04-02-2015, 01:15 AM

How much would a tune cost from you guys? I take an annual road trip in August every year from Detroit to Tampa then Orlando and back home. Just curious "rough estimate"how long it takes to tune and if you think you would have openings by August. PM to chew me out or to set up an appointment... Thanks for your time Phil and keep up the good work.

Gee · 04-02-2015, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Black&WhiteEnvy

How much would a tune cost from you guys? I take an annual road trip in August every year from Detroit to Tampa then Orlando and back home. Just curious "rough estimate"how long it takes to tune and if you think you would have openings by August. PM to chew me out or to set up an appointment... Thanks for your time Phil and keep up the good work.

http://www.tampatuning.com/ Tuning@TampaTuning.com 813.727.8720(pulled from his sig) Looks like it costs $280. I would call them.

menendez1293 · 04-02-2015, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Black&WhiteEnvy

How much would a tune cost from you guys? I take an annual road trip in August every year from Detroit to Tampa then Orlando and back home. Just curious "rough estimate"how long it takes to tune and if you think you would have openings by August. PM to chew me out or to set up an appointment... Thanks for your time Phil and keep up the good work.

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http://www.tampatuning.com/ Tuning@TampaTuning.com 813.727.8720(pulled from his sig) Looks like it costs $280. I would call them.

I PMed them a few days ago and they told me 550 for a dyno tune.

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Gee · 04-02-2015, 05:59 AM

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I PMed them a few days ago and they told me 550 for a dyno tune.

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Oh. He said tune. Didnt think he meant dyno. Thats way different. But now he knows the pricing of both.

menendez1293 · 04-02-2015, 06:05 AM

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Oh. He said tune. Didnt think he meant dyno. Thats way different. But now he knows the pricing of both.

Well with the nature of the LLT, you are probably going to only want to do a dyno tune unless you have extensive time to dial it in on the road. I will add they did say it would be about 550. It could be less or more.

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c_cook94 · 04-08-2015, 06:13 PM

I haven't been on the forums lately but today i ran across this thread.. I see the tuning problems have been figured out. That's awesome! but where can the supercharger be purchased? It's not on RX's website or Apex.

Ventmaster · 04-08-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by c_cook94

I haven't been on the forums lately but today i ran across this thread.. I see the tuning problems have been figured out. That's awesome! but where can the supercharger be purchased? It's not on RX's website or Apex.

Ta-Da!

http://www.ipf-tuning.com/camaro-supercharger/

c_cook94 · 04-08-2015, 11:29 PM

i was referring to the top mount S/C that's in the video.

flyer08 · 04-09-2015, 12:51 AM

I would stay away from RX but Phil will take care of you. Spent a lot of time with him in my car for multiple tunes (new mods) and have had only good experiences. My car and wife's LLT

menendez1293 · 04-12-2015, 07:28 PM

Any updates on this?

Tampa Tuning · 04-13-2015, 09:00 PM

some guys wouldnt post these results, but im going to.

So I spent about 5 more hours on the experiment Saturday, and made some progress, but not respectable progress in my book. Its a project that I wanted to try to improve on and I really didn't care who built it so lets keep that out of it.

The car is pretty much at the same power it was when it arrived when we did the first pull, but has a couple more pounds of boost that's going somewhere. Id say the first four hours this time was on the street to see what it would tolerate with no effect of the dyno, then back on the dyno. I don't like the numbers game but here they are for full disclosure and we can talk about what the engine is doing or not doing with the boost. The vehicles computer wont let me log my more parameters with boost applications, but we logged what we could.

I put up several runs to explain them.

Run 1 is what it arrived in 295/282. We didn't measure the boost on the 1st dyno, but I video it and it was 4-5 pounds of boost. Slightly cooler night by about 15 degrees, but nothing crazy because the IATs were close to the same. I don't think we'd fighting the IATs. Maybe the number 2s but we cant measure those.

Run 14 is where we left off a couple weeks ago 278/254 with almost 8 pounds of boost and the load was 94. IAT 94

Run 15 is after street tuning and back on the dyno. 291/269 with 5 pounds of boost. No knock. AFR 11.5- 11.9 @ WOT. Load was 104. Timing is about 19-21. IAT 91-95

Run 19 is 290/268 the same tune as 15, but it decided to add almost 3 pounds if boost again. AFR 11.6- 11.8. Load was 104. IAT 90-94

Yes pull 14 had more boost than 15, but 15 more down more power.
Yes pull 19 had more boost than 15, but the HP and TQ was the same.

I know what your thinking, belt slip is causing the boost fluctuation. If I buy into that, adding three more pounds of boost should have leaned the car out and caused a good amount of knock, but it didn't. Nor did it add power.

So where's the boost going is ask myself. We talked about changing to a smaller pulley, and I go back to we're not making more power from 5 pounds to 8 pounds ( granted its random), but where's the boost going. The car is making about 40 RWHP over its stock platform both on its arrival tune that we couldn't see, and my calibrations, so obviously the boost isn't making power. At one point we had it snapper with better throttle response at the cost of the throttle randomly closing, but we stopped that experiment.

Ill have to take a screen shot of the scan because its on my other laptop loaded with BETA.

So we know we can calibrate the LLTs with HP Tuners, but this particular build needs more studying to determine where our boost is going.

Ill try and answer some question about the calibration, but we wont discuss who build it in this thread. It has nothing to do with what we were trying to do. It was just another build to me.

Phil

RubyCamaro · 04-13-2015, 09:43 PM

Okay, so my question is a simple one. Has enough been unlocked & made tunable that was not accessible before that it would be worth it for a Camaro like mine that is just every conceivable bolt on & has the HP tune, to go back in for a tune update? BTW I empathize with you on the whole where is all the power going thing. That is how I feel after getting LT headers, high flow cats & the HP tune only to show zero improvement on the track.

Ventmaster · 04-13-2015, 09:44 PM

Honesty is the best policy! In my opinion your honesty only makes you more trustworthy.
You were looking for a LLT with bolt-ons to start and I expect you'll have some folks standing in line for that now.

Perhaps in the near future an IPF S/C can benefit as well!

Just keep working with "the little engine that could"!

03-31-2015, 10:22 PM	#43
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,225 View My Garage	__________________

04-13-2015, 09:43 PM	#55
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,225 View My Garage	Okay, so my question is a simple one. Has enough been unlocked & made tunable that was not accessible before that it would be worth it for a Camaro like mine that is just every conceivable bolt on & has the HP tune, to go back in for a tune update? BTW I empathize with you on the whole where is all the power going thing. That is how I feel after getting LT headers, high flow cats & the HP tune only to show zero improvement on the track. __________________

04-02-2015, 01:15 AM	#44
Black&WhiteEnvy 211 v6 m6 Drives: 2011 v6 manual white with black Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Detroit Posts: 89	How much would a tune cost from you guys? I take an annual road trip in August every year from Detroit to Tampa then Orlando and back home. Just curious "rough estimate"how long it takes to tune and if you think you would have openings by August. PM to chew me out or to set up an appointment... Thanks for your time Phil and keep up the good work.

04-08-2015, 06:13 PM	#49
c_cook94 Drives: 2011 Rally Yellow 1LT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vicksburg, MS Posts: 182 View My Garage	I haven't been on the forums lately but today i ran across this thread.. I see the tuning problems have been figured out. That's awesome! but where can the supercharger be purchased? It's not on RX's website or Apex.

04-08-2015, 11:29 PM	#51
c_cook94 Drives: 2011 Rally Yellow 1LT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vicksburg, MS Posts: 182 View My Garage	i was referring to the top mount S/C that's in the video.

04-09-2015, 12:51 AM	#52
flyer08 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,418	I would stay away from RX but Phil will take care of you. Spent a lot of time with him in my car for multiple tunes (new mods) and have had only good experiences. My car and wife's LLT

04-12-2015, 07:28 PM	#53
menendez1293 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 9,687 View My Garage	Any updates on this?

04-13-2015, 09:00 PM	#54
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	some guys wouldnt post these results, but im going to. So I spent about 5 more hours on the experiment Saturday, and made some progress, but not respectable progress in my book. Its a project that I wanted to try to improve on and I really didn't care who built it so lets keep that out of it. The car is pretty much at the same power it was when it arrived when we did the first pull, but has a couple more pounds of boost that's going somewhere. Id say the first four hours this time was on the street to see what it would tolerate with no effect of the dyno, then back on the dyno. I don't like the numbers game but here they are for full disclosure and we can talk about what the engine is doing or not doing with the boost. The vehicles computer wont let me log my more parameters with boost applications, but we logged what we could. I put up several runs to explain them. Run 1 is what it arrived in 295/282. We didn't measure the boost on the 1st dyno, but I video it and it was 4-5 pounds of boost. Slightly cooler night by about 15 degrees, but nothing crazy because the IATs were close to the same. I don't think we'd fighting the IATs. Maybe the number 2s but we cant measure those. Run 14 is where we left off a couple weeks ago 278/254 with almost 8 pounds of boost and the load was 94. IAT 94 Run 15 is after street tuning and back on the dyno. 291/269 with 5 pounds of boost. No knock. AFR 11.5- 11.9 @ WOT. Load was 104. Timing is about 19-21. IAT 91-95 Run 19 is 290/268 the same tune as 15, but it decided to add almost 3 pounds if boost again. AFR 11.6- 11.8. Load was 104. IAT 90-94 Yes pull 14 had more boost than 15, but 15 more down more power. Yes pull 19 had more boost than 15, but the HP and TQ was the same. I know what your thinking, belt slip is causing the boost fluctuation. If I buy into that, adding three more pounds of boost should have leaned the car out and caused a good amount of knock, but it didn't. Nor did it add power. So where's the boost going is ask myself. We talked about changing to a smaller pulley, and I go back to we're not making more power from 5 pounds to 8 pounds ( granted its random), but where's the boost going. The car is making about 40 RWHP over its stock platform both on its arrival tune that we couldn't see, and my calibrations, so obviously the boost isn't making power. At one point we had it snapper with better throttle response at the cost of the throttle randomly closing, but we stopped that experiment. Ill have to take a screen shot of the scan because its on my other laptop loaded with BETA. So we know we can calibrate the LLTs with HP Tuners, but this particular build needs more studying to determine where our boost is going. Ill try and answer some question about the calibration, but we wont discuss who build it in this thread. It has nothing to do with what we were trying to do. It was just another build to me. Phil

04-13-2015, 09:44 PM	#56
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,869	Honesty is the best policy! In my opinion your honesty only makes you more trustworthy. You were looking for a LLT with bolt-ons to start and I expect you'll have some folks standing in line for that now. Perhaps in the near future an IPF S/C can benefit as well! Just keep working with "the little engine that could"!