Poll- who had a failed oil pump on their Camaro? - Page 85

ZX-10R · 08-14-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by george

Then the theory behind allowing the oil to get to operating temperature is that there’s less stress on the pump related to decreased pressure?

Yes - especially higher viscosity oil, but the pump housing design is clearly flawed

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If GM manufacturer used substandard materials in the pump, I would expect that to be a failure in workmanship These vehicles should have either a recall or extension of warranty.

Won't happen because replacing all the pumps would be huge $$$. Fortunately failures (esp '19+) are still fairly rare, then again most of these cars are garage queens. If your car is out of warranty and you want to keep it long term just get the Katech wet sump pump

george · 08-19-2022, 06:33 PM

is that why the recommendation went from 5w/30 to 0w/40?

drfeelgood · 08-27-2022, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Katech_Zach

Yes, essentially this. What we have discovered is it cracks at the pivot point first, and then either the vane snags into the crack, or the point that is 180 degrees out from the first crack also splits (2 separate pieces for that slider).

If you catch it early enough (the 10-20psi drop stage), there will be nearly no damage to your engine in most cases. We have a 2021 come into the shop with a broken oil pump, he bought the car new, had an oil pressure drop, and had it immediately towed to us. We tore into the shortblock to check it out, and all bearings were in phenomenal shape. We could have put it together as-is, but the customer opted for Clevite bearings, ARP mains, ARP rod bolts, and ARP side bolts.

For anyone that is concerned with a factory oil pump failure, drive your car as you would normally, and just watch after your oil pressure. If you see any unusual large drops that stay low, i would park the car until you choose a direction for repair

I am in litigation with GM now over a failed oil pump. Would it be ok if I have my attorney contact you for more information on what you have found with these failed pumps?

serpent · 08-31-2022, 11:54 AM

For those with 2017 and 2018 that HAD stock pumps, how much did chevy bill to change out to a newer updated oil pump?

Mark R · 08-31-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by serpent

For those with 2017 and 2018 that HAD stock pumps, how much did chevy bill to change out to a newer updated oil pump?

My dealer installed a Katech pump, which I supplied,for $3,200 labor.

pauly1119 · 08-31-2022, 06:19 PM

If you were to do a new pump install through a dealer what would be another smart item to change at that time without adding HP?

Ron66Vette&10SS · 10-23-2022, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by serpent

For those with 2017 and 2018 that HAD stock pumps, how much did chevy bill to change out to a newer updated oil pump?

Called my dealer and they said 18 hours for labor, $2,400 before parts.

Ron66Vette&10SS · 10-23-2022, 05:28 PM

Haven't added my vote to the poll....YET!

Got the Low Oil Pressure/Shut Engine Down message Thursday night accelerating away from light. Was on for around a second, went out, then a couple seconds later came back on. Pulled into a parking lot and shut it down.

I've got a 2017 with approx 24,400 miles on it. Owned the car for 5 years and 5 months.

Called the dealership service department, asked about possibly getting a "good-faith" warranty extension (or whatever it's called) and was told to talk to the Service Department Manager on Monday to see what might be able to be done.

I made a comment that if it wasn't for COVID requiring me to work from home for almost 2 years, I would have easily put the miles on the car and it would have probably failed well within the 5 year warranty period. The service rep said something to the affect of "That's been taken into consideration before" or something similar....not sure what to make of that, but keeping my fingers crossed!

If they won't/aren't able to hook me up, I'll throw a Pressure Transmitter at it and see if I get lucky...more to come.

Ron66Vette&10SS · 10-28-2022, 12:16 AM

Well, it's official....just added my 2017 (24,400 miles, 5 years and 5months after delivery)to the poll.

Replaced the Oil Pressure Transmitter, fired it up and still have 0psi.

And to think I used to talk smack about Hellcats and that nobody in their right mind would keep a Dodge after the warranty ran out. Stupid me!

ZED SLED · 10-28-2022, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

Well, it's official....just added my 2017 (24,400 miles, 5 years and 5months after delivery)to the poll.

Replaced the Oil Pressure Transmitter, fired it up and still have 0psi.

And to think I used to talk smack about Hellcats and that nobody in their right mind would keep a Dodge after the warranty ran out. Stupid me!

I'm at 5 yr 3 mo and just hit 10k. Built 4/13/17. I keep one eye glued to the oil pressure gauge every time I take it out. But let us know how the good faith thing works out. I got the instrument cluster replaced in my 13k mile '05 Avalanche around 2015 under that. Ironically, the oil pressure gauge on it pegged at 80 psi. Cost me $100. But that was then, when GM appreciated their customers, not sure about that now. Then again, the instrument cluster was only about a $500 repair.

L78toLT1 · 10-28-2022, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark R

My dealer installed a Katech pump, which I supplied,for $3,200 labor.

Damn, that's pricey! I wish I had a couple dozen Camaros lined up, waiting on pump replacements at $3k each. I could quit my day job!

4skidmarks · 12-08-2022, 10:14 PM

2018, 21,000 miles, oil pump failed last month. After 3 weeks of diagnosing and apparently GM looking through my telemetry, they replaced motor. Had 6 months of warranty left luckily. It happened at the end (or during) my fourth session at a track. When I came off the track I got the "Low oil Pressure....shut off engine". When I looked over the PDR telemetry, during the last lap, my max oil pressure was 20-25 psi higher than the first 3 sessions (which were all the same). Last lap, right before I pulled off track and got the warning it recorded a max of 80 Psi and a min of 31 psi?

george · 12-09-2022, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4skidmarks

2018, 21,000 miles, oil pump failed last month. After 3 weeks of diagnosing and apparently GM looking through my telemetry, they replaced motor. Had 6 months of warranty left luckily. It happened at the end (or during) my fourth session at a track. When I came off the track I got the "Low oil Pressure....shut off engine". When I looked over the PDR telemetry, during the last lap, my max oil pressure was 20-25 psi higher than the first 3 sessions (which were all the same). Last lap, right before I pulled off track and got the warning it recorded a max of 80 Psi and a min of 31 psi?

Did you notice any metallic glitter in any of your oil changes?

ZX-10R · 12-09-2022, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

Well, it's official....just added my 2017 (24,400 miles, 5 years and 5months after delivery)to the poll.

And to think I used to talk smack about Hellcats and that nobody in their right mind would keep a Dodge after the warranty ran out. Stupid me!

Does that mean you aren't covered under warranty?

Sounds like you caught it early so hopefully no engine damage, time to call Katech and order a pump

Yeah it's crazy GM can't build a reliable oil pump, they had to go through multiple revisions, and it can still fail '19+ (although rare) - completely unacceptable - plus that the LT4 seems to have excessive oil blowby in many cases

View Poll Results: Who has experienced an oil pump failure?
2016 or earlier	20	13.79%
2017	53	36.55%
2018	67	46.21%
2019	2	1.38%
2020	2	1.38%
2021	1	0.69%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

10-23-2022, 05:28 PM	#1184
Ron66Vette&10SS Plays with Hot Wheels Drives: '17 Jet Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 849	Haven't added my vote to the poll....YET! Got the Low Oil Pressure/Shut Engine Down message Thursday night accelerating away from light. Was on for around a second, went out, then a couple seconds later came back on. Pulled into a parking lot and shut it down. I've got a 2017 with approx 24,400 miles on it. Owned the car for 5 years and 5 months. Called the dealership service department, asked about possibly getting a "good-faith" warranty extension (or whatever it's called) and was told to talk to the Service Department Manager on Monday to see what might be able to be done. I made a comment that if it wasn't for COVID requiring me to work from home for almost 2 years, I would have easily put the miles on the car and it would have probably failed well within the 5 year warranty period. The service rep said something to the affect of "That's been taken into consideration before" or something similar....not sure what to make of that, but keeping my fingers crossed! If they won't/aren't able to hook me up, I'll throw a Pressure Transmitter at it and see if I get lucky...more to come. __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette, '10 SS, '13 SS Hot Wheels Current Cars: '17 ZL1(daily driver), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '66 Corvette (restoring)

10-28-2022, 12:16 AM	#1185
Ron66Vette&10SS Plays with Hot Wheels Drives: '17 Jet Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 849	Well, it's official....just added my 2017 (24,400 miles, 5 years and 5months after delivery)to the poll. Replaced the Oil Pressure Transmitter, fired it up and still have 0psi. And to think I used to talk smack about Hellcats and that nobody in their right mind would keep a Dodge after the warranty ran out. Stupid me! __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette, '10 SS, '13 SS Hot Wheels Current Cars: '17 ZL1(daily driver), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '66 Corvette (restoring)

08-19-2022, 06:33 PM	#1178
george ZL1 Driver Drives: Camaro ZL1 & BMW M3/E92 Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA Posts: 487	is that why the recommendation went from 5w/30 to 0w/40?

08-31-2022, 11:54 AM	#1180
serpent Drives: 2006 GTO Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Santa Clara Ca Posts: 112	For those with 2017 and 2018 that HAD stock pumps, how much did chevy bill to change out to a newer updated oil pump?

08-31-2022, 06:19 PM	#1182
pauly1119 Drives: 2018 ZLE Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Palm City Fl Posts: 1,347	If you were to do a new pump install through a dealer what would be another smart item to change at that time without adding HP?

12-08-2022, 10:14 PM	#1188
4skidmarks Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: San Diego Posts: 3	2018, 21,000 miles, oil pump failed last month. After 3 weeks of diagnosing and apparently GM looking through my telemetry, they replaced motor. Had 6 months of warranty left luckily. It happened at the end (or during) my fourth session at a track. When I came off the track I got the "Low oil Pressure....shut off engine". When I looked over the PDR telemetry, during the last lap, my max oil pressure was 20-25 psi higher than the first 3 sessions (which were all the same). Last lap, right before I pulled off track and got the warning it recorded a max of 80 Psi and a min of 31 psi?

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