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Old 12-21-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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Xbox 360 horrible red ring of death a scam? + fix rrod

My brothers friends 360 broke [rrod]red ring of death and he wanted to send it in to get fixed but its modded. He didnt know what to do. so my brotther heard you could wrap a towel around it and it would overheat and then after that it would work. My brothers friend said bs. Then he decided why not try it. He wrapped a towel around it and let it go for an hour. It overheated. So he let it cool down and he turned it on to find out it fixed it! So is the red ring of death just a scam to get microsoft money by getting it fixed from them? He didnt actually do anything.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:14 PM   #2
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My brothers friends 360 broke [rrod]red ring of death and he wanted to send it in to get fixed but its modded. He didnt know what to do. so my brotther heard you could wrap a towel around it and it would overheat and then after that it would work. My brothers friend said bs. Then he decided why not try it. He wrapped a towel around it and let it go for an hour. It overheated. So he let it cool down and he turned it on to find out it fixed it! So is the red ring of death just a scam to get microsoft money by getting it fixed from them? He didnt actually do anything.
This works because of the main reason for the RROD. The RROD is because of not enough cooling and insufficient air movement. The 360 was originally made with poor quality solder. When the internal temps of the 360 reach a certain point the solder begins to break down and partial melt causing it lose connection and eventually there will be no connection at all (the RROD). The towel method keeps the hot air in allowing the internal temp to rise higher. This allows the solder to melt completely reconnecting any parts that lost connection. Due to this cycle the fix is only temporary as they solder will break down again in a couple months not to mention that the towel trick can and will cause permanent damage to other internal components that are not designed to withstand the heat.

The only way to really fix it is to increase the amount of cooling and air flow and to de-solder and then re-solder all connections with good solder so no it's not a scam by Microsoft. Plus for it to be a scam they have to have something to gain but they do it for free. In the 1st year alone didn't MS LOSE a lot of money fixing the RROD?
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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You probably shouldn't purposely overheat the system...
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:35 PM   #4
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My brothers friends 360 broke [rrod]red ring of death and he wanted to send it in to get fixed but its modded. He didnt know what to do. so my brotther heard you could wrap a towel around it and it would overheat and then after that it would work. My brothers friend said bs. Then he decided why not try it. He wrapped a towel around it and let it go for an hour. It overheated. So he let it cool down and he turned it on to find out it fixed it! So is the red ring of death just a scam to get microsoft money by getting it fixed from them? He didnt actually do anything.
Why would it be a scam? It cost Microsoft a fortune to replace all those 360s...

And tell him to send it back. Just get a new one.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:40 PM   #5
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NO warranty when modded. After you break the seal you void the warranty.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:41 PM   #6
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Here is why it works...Really!

Wrapping it in a towel and leaving it like that for a while causes the game system to overheat, as no air can be circulated by the internal cooling fan. When the unit overheats it shuts down and restores all setting to the origianal factory specs.

It is that simple nothing fancy! I have don it it is no biggie!
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:49 PM   #7
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I read what I wrote above...And it sounds a little vague. Let me clarify. I don't know beyond a shadow of doubt exactly what Red Ring of Death is, but for lack of a better description it is like a virus, that is retained by the units' harddrive. The only way to remove it is to reset the unit. The only way to do that w/o sending it back to that factory is the overheating method. I have done it once and have freinds who have done it countless times. It will not harm your Xbox! Good Luck!
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ill give ur buddies 360 2 months max before u see the rrod . the towel trick is a TEMPORARY fix. iv done that before and it lasted 2 months on me before my 360 was gonzo again and this time it didnt live to play again. my 360 was modded to so i had to buy a new one. good luck on ur buddies second 360.
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Here is why it works...Really!

Wrapping it in a towel and leaving it like that for a while causes the game system to overheat, as no air can be circulated by the internal cooling fan. When the unit overheats it shuts down and restores all setting to the origianal factory specs.

It is that simple nothing fancy! I have don it it is no biggie!
I read what I wrote above...And it sounds a little vague. Let me clarify. I don't know beyond a shadow of doubt exactly what Red Ring of Death is, but for lack of a better description it is like a virus, that is retained by the units' harddrive. The only way to remove it is to reset the unit. The only way to do that w/o sending it back to that factory is the overheating method. I have done it once and have freinds who have done it countless times. It will not harm your Xbox! Good Luck!
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This works because of the main reason for the RROD. The RROD is because of not enough cooling and insufficient air movement. The 360 was originally made with poor quality solder. When the internal temps of the 360 reach a certain point the solder begins to break down and partial melt causing it lose connection and eventually there will be no connection at all (the RROD). The towel method keeps the hot air in allowing the internal temp to rise higher. This allows the solder to melt completely reconnecting any parts that lost connection. Due to this cycle the fix is only temporary as they solder will break down again in a couple months not to mention that the towel trick can and will cause permanent damage to other internal components that are not designed to withstand the heat.

The only way to really fix it is to increase the amount of cooling and air flow and to de-solder and then re-solder all connections with good solder so no it's not a scam by Microsoft. Plus for it to be a scam they have to have something to gain but they do it for free. In the 1st year alone didn't MS LOSE a lot of money fixing the RROD?
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In order to not get a RROD, simply place your xbox in a space with open air. If you keep it in a confined space, it's cooling system can't work as intended. That's why it overheats.

Also, if you mod your xbox, TAKE CARE OF IT AND GIVE IT ROOM TO BREATHE.

That's like getting some Louis Vitton/Prada/whatever designer interior for your convertible and leaving the top down on a cloudy day with storm warnings...
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I read what I wrote above...And it sounds a little vague. Let me clarify. I don't know beyond a shadow of doubt exactly what Red Ring of Death is, but for lack of a better description it is like a virus, that is retained by the units' harddrive. The only way to remove it is to reset the unit. The only way to do that w/o sending it back to that factory is the overheating method. I have done it once and have freinds who have done it countless times. It will not harm your Xbox! Good Luck!
with many years of experience with comsumer electronics and computers you will most definately do damage to GPU and CPU chips exposing them to that kind of heat.
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In order to not get a RROD, simply place your xbox in a space with open air. If you keep it in a confined space, it's cooling system can't work as intended. That's why it overheats.

Also, if you mod your xbox, TAKE CARE OF IT AND GIVE IT ROOM TO BREATHE.

That's like getting some Louis Vitton/Prada/whatever designer interior for your convertible and leaving the top down on a cloudy day with storm warnings...
im getting the pro for xmas it has a build in fan. just incase i wight buy the 20 dollar fan
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Here is why it works...Really!

Wrapping it in a towel and leaving it like that for a while causes the game system to overheat, as no air can be circulated by the internal cooling fan. When the unit overheats it shuts down and restores all setting to the origianal factory specs.

It is that simple nothing fancy! I have don it it is no biggie!
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as said before, the solder on the connection to the hard drive breaks, once it loses its connection the rrod comes up because theres no communication to the hard drive

the towel trick works because, as stated already, the heat causes the solder to melt and if your lucky, reconnect the broken connection, but it doesnt always work and heat causes damage to other components which is why its no recommended or even advised

the only way what you said would make sence would be if you changed some settings and the rrod came up right after. if you didnt change anything then your still at the default settings
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as said before, the solder on the connection to the hard drive breaks, once it loses its connection the rrod comes up because theres no communication to the hard drive

the towel trick works because, as stated already, the heat causes the solder to melt and if your lucky, reconnect the broken connection, but it doesnt always work and heat causes damage to other components which is why its no recommended or even advised

the only way what you said would make sence would be if you changed some settings and the rrod came up right after. if you didnt change anything then your still at the default settings
would it be a bitc% to find and connect?
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