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Old 04-26-2012, 07:38 PM   #3347
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Uh oh... for those of you that made a WAG based on what you knew about my build,

Here is something to consider... I posed the question to Corey about which pump we had ordered just to make sure... and here is the response...

"The eliminator pump. The A1000 wasn't much of an improvement on what we have now so that one was out"


This pump is capable of supporting 1400 HP in a forced induction car... It will have the pump speed controller and as mentioned before, the regulator on the return line with the boost sense fitting... Regardless of the manifold pressure, there will be 60 psi coming out of the rails... So, pump, new regulator, speed controller, and new rails...

I'll wait on the injectors and see what comes of these, but that isn't in the equation for this WAG contest...

Injectors are 93 lb/hr at 4 bar (58 psi) running them at 60 psi...

As for the wet shot of nitrous, it will be a stand alone system, with a SS tank under the hood, internal fuel pump, external regulator. We will have C-16 in the stand alone tank.

When I mentioned maxing out the boost, this was in reference to a safe amount of boost based on available fuel... I am verifying with Corey if we ordered the Stealth Fuel system or the Eliminator... I'll let you guys know...
Yeh, the Eliminator supports more power than the A1000 for sure. The stand alone fuel for the nitrous frees up some fuel since you are not using the in-tank pump.

So the limiting factor for boost will be the injectors. Those 93lb injectors are 80lb at 3 bar so they are only good to 1100 crank hp unless you go past 80% IDC or the engine is more efficient than .55 BSFC.

Doing the math 1100(crank hp) x .85(15% DT loss) = 935rwhp. Add 180rwhp(since the nitrous helps cool the air) for the 150 shot of nitrous and you get 1185.

Close enough to my original guess so I will stick to it.
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #3348
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Looks like it's geared perfect for the 1/4 mile and the cars capability
That's what I'm thinking...I know with an easy launch at current power, we were still going into 4th just about the 1/8th mile... so, traction, hard launch, get into 4th and let them turbo's eat...
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:46 PM   #3349
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Yeh, the Eliminator supports more power than the A1000 for sure. The stand alone fuel for the nitrous frees up some fuel since you are not using the in-tank pump.

So the limiting factor for boost will be the injectors. Those 93lb injectors are 80lb at 3 bar so they are only good to 1100 crank hp unless you go past 80% IDC or the engine is more efficient than .55 BSFC.

Doing the math 1100(crank hp) x .85(15% DT loss) = 935rwhp. Add 180rwhp(since the nitrous helps cool the air) for the 150 shot of nitrous and you get 1185.

Close enough to my original guess so I will stick to it.
you engineers, I swear... lol...

Time will tell... Can't wait... It's been a long road...and I'll get bigger injectors if needed... but not for this WAG contest..
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:20 PM   #3350
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Here is another chart showing top speed in each gear based on a 6500 RPM shift point...
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:26 PM   #3351
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Here is another chart showing top speed in each gear based on a 6500 RPM shift point...
287MPH, that's what I'm talking about...
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:12 PM   #3352
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287MPH, that's what I'm talking about...
limiting factor there will be wind resistance... these cars are bricks compared to a vette or lambo





thats as fancy as i get after 11 beers
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:42 PM   #3353
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limiting factor there will be wind resistance... these cars are bricks compared to a vette or lambo





thats as fancy as i get after 11 beers
I dunno what you're talking about...Robert's RAM will do 205 without flinching...
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I dunno what you're talking about...Robert's RAM will do 205 without flinching...
with or without the tow package
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:56 AM   #3355
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If that program of -B's went to top speed, it would be perfect

It already has jet thrust calculations, you know, just in case the NOS isn't enough
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:05 AM   #3356
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I dunno what you're talking about...Robert's RAM will do 205 without flinching...
Mike, that's 20.5...

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with or without the tow package
and it's a two package... not tow

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If that program of -B's went to top speed, it would be perfect

It already has jet thrust calculations, you know, just in case the NOS isn't enough
I noticed that, I want a jet thrust package...
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:05 PM   #3357
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ERL does make some killer blocks. 1186 rwhp 1020 tq 24 psi ttix We have beat on ours for a over a year 1/2 and no issues. LMR has been beating on Olbetz for a while also and just sprayed there APS kit. http://ls1tech.com/forums/texas-memb...-dyno-vid.html
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:27 PM   #3358
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I finally got my program to run, but it doesn't allow for sticky tires so the 0-60ft sux..... (~2sec)

..... having said that, Brandi is gonna be a MONSTER even without touching the laffing gas! Still runs 10's every time with the rear tires spinning to 90mph

(BTW that's without nos)
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:33 PM   #3359
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I'm going to skip the tens and go straight for the nines... never liked the tens... been in the elevens, gonna skip over tens on tuesday, right after the price is right, but only on tuesday..
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I'm going to skip the tens and go straight for the nines... never liked the tens... been in the elevens, gonna skip over tens on tuesday, right after the price is right, but only on tuesday..
Rainman? .... is that you?

Can't get it in the 9's... too much wheelspin in 1 & 2... fun to play with tho LOL
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