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blake2010ss · 06-22-2017, 07:49 AM

I know this is the FI section, but i figured only FI guys would have this issue. My mantic 9000 sprung street cerametallic is slipping at 700wtq range. Its suppose to be rated for 1010ft lbs. Anyone else have any power holding issues with mantic clutches? My input shaft was recently replaced from a slight bend which we thought may have been the cause of slipping before, but still slipped again.

stevieturbo · 06-22-2017, 04:23 PM

It'll be all the usual questions.

Is it installed correctly, are you sure the release bearing is not being pressed against the fingers at rest ( if you can get a small camera in there to ensure the slave/release has adequate free travel to move back as the clutch wears etc )

Other than that, some clutches seem to be a crap shoot, some hold far beyond their rating, some nowhere near it and there seems to be little consistency.

The guys over on the Vette forum seem to praise the Mantic, but then you get small groups praising most type of product...then others who get only misery from the same one.

I've been through it all myself, and still none the wiser as to what clutch is best.

blake2010ss · 06-22-2017, 07:06 PM

Mantic suggested the clutch needs freshing up and are sending rebuild parts to the shop. No clue how much it costs for rebuilds, but hopefully it does the trick. Clutch has around 10k miles on it. Maybe 25% of its life was abused, give or take a bit. Ill update after rebuild.

blake2010ss · 06-23-2017, 03:22 PM

Shop called today and said that they noticed an oil leak at the rear of the motor, they are gonna pull the trans to see the culprit. I am curious if they oil leak could be the culprit to the clutch spinning on the dyno at higher rpm.

stevieturbo · 06-23-2017, 03:51 PM

Certainly if there is oil on the plates, it wouldnt help

Detoxx03 · 06-23-2017, 09:29 PM

No issues with mine. I think the weight of the camaros beat a lot of clutches up that aren't a RPS triple.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 06-23-2017, 10:47 PM

I was told that a Mantic wouldn't hold my power with the weight of the Camaro when we were looking at going 1k plus... it is a nice piece though... I went the RPS triple and never had an issue til we planned my current power level... then I graduated to the quad... Oil on the plates would certainly reduce the holding power...

swiftkart · 06-29-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxx03

No issues with mine. I think the weight of the camaros beat a lot of clutches up that aren't a RPS triple.

+1, Manic didn't hold, but the RPS triple is thumbs up, Camaro is 700 to 800lbs heavier than a Vette.

blake2010ss · 06-30-2017, 03:08 PM

I got a Monster triple lt1-s on the way. Should hold up hopefully. I just couldnt afford an rps triple.

ZX1truth · 07-04-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blake2010ss

I got a Monster triple lt1-s on the way. Should hold up hopefully. I just couldnt afford an rps triple.

Same here on the Monster triple lt1-s, waiting for mine to deliver also. I have heard nothing but great things from people that have them.

06-22-2017, 07:49 AM	#1
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	Mantic 9000 not holding power I know this is the FI section, but i figured only FI guys would have this issue. My mantic 9000 sprung street cerametallic is slipping at 700wtq range. Its suppose to be rated for 1010ft lbs. Anyone else have any power holding issues with mantic clutches? My input shaft was recently replaced from a slight bend which we thought may have been the cause of slipping before, but still slipped again. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam

06-22-2017, 07:06 PM	#3
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	Mantic suggested the clutch needs freshing up and are sending rebuild parts to the shop. No clue how much it costs for rebuilds, but hopefully it does the trick. Clutch has around 10k miles on it. Maybe 25% of its life was abused, give or take a bit. Ill update after rebuild. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam

06-23-2017, 03:22 PM	#4
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	Shop called today and said that they noticed an oil leak at the rear of the motor, they are gonna pull the trans to see the culprit. I am curious if they oil leak could be the culprit to the clutch spinning on the dyno at higher rpm. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam

06-23-2017, 09:29 PM	#6
Detoxx03 ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™ Drives: 2008 Corvette Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Woodward Avenue Posts: 876 View My Garage	No issues with mine. I think the weight of the camaros beat a lot of clutches up that aren't a RPS triple. __________________ D1SC Procharger 932/758 on E85 A Futral Motorsports Creation https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic

06-23-2017, 10:47 PM	#7
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,484	I was told that a Mantic wouldn't hold my power with the weight of the Camaro when we were looking at going 1k plus... it is a nice piece though... I went the RPS triple and never had an issue til we planned my current power level... then I graduated to the quad... Oil on the plates would certainly reduce the holding power... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

06-22-2017, 04:23 PM	#2
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	It'll be all the usual questions. Is it installed correctly, are you sure the release bearing is not being pressed against the fingers at rest ( if you can get a small camera in there to ensure the slave/release has adequate free travel to move back as the clutch wears etc ) Other than that, some clutches seem to be a crap shoot, some hold far beyond their rating, some nowhere near it and there seems to be little consistency. The guys over on the Vette forum seem to praise the Mantic, but then you get small groups praising most type of product...then others who get only misery from the same one. I've been through it all myself, and still none the wiser as to what clutch is best.

06-23-2017, 03:51 PM	#5
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	Certainly if there is oil on the plates, it wouldnt help

06-30-2017, 03:08 PM	#9
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	I got a Monster triple lt1-s on the way. Should hold up hopefully. I just couldnt afford an rps triple. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam