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The_Stache · 10-02-2007, 12:10 AM

Its all about future crash standards that are going to be put in place.. and its not side impact.. its rollover standards.. I'll have to find the post but I think currently its set at 1/2 the cars weight and some lobbyists got that increased effective on all 2009 or 2010 production vehicles.

Give me some time to find that information.

Heres part of it.. Link
And the poeple to blame Link
And here is the ruling by the nhtsa Link

*TAG UR IT* · 10-02-2007, 01:47 AM

gurulu68,

You make some fine points. Now, I'd love to see what someone from GM has to say about those points. If weight isn't the issue (since it's possible it won't weigh that much), then what the heck is keeping them from reinforcing the roof and keeping that dreaded b-pillar out of there??

gurulu68 · 10-02-2007, 05:01 PM

It has to be the rules that have been imposed on the automakers buy the government and they don't want to take any chances.

gurulu68 · 10-02-2007, 05:10 PM

Even in a roll over the boron steel will hold up. I have hit a 3 1/2 foot by 6 inch flat piece of rear body panel with a 5 pound hammer as hard as I could and it didn't put a dent in it. Btw there are many grades of boron steel so they can make it as strong as they want.

Power Junkie · 10-03-2007, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurulu68

Even in a roll over the boron steel will hold up. I have hit a 3 1/2 foot by 6 inch flat piece of rear body panel with a 5 pound hammer as hard as I could and it didn't put a dent in it. Btw there are many grades of boron steel so they can make it as strong as they want.

Anyway can we get this guy a job with GM... i'd really prefer a hard top...

2001ragtop · 10-03-2007, 01:13 PM

B pillar

*TAG UR IT* · 10-03-2007, 01:42 PM

From the looks of that B-pillar, it seems Dodge is trying to hide theirs too. It doesn't look like the outside of that is going to be exposed at all.

And in that pic above, it is assured there won't be any roll down window either.

Good find.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-03-2007, 01:48 PM

+1 I'll take it like that!

GREAT FIND...I can sorta see it on a real car...hidden behind glass it doesn't look bad at all!

Pencil.Fight · 10-03-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

From the looks of that B-pillar, it seems Dodge is trying to hide theirs too. It doesn't look like the outside of that is going to be exposed at all.

I don't know, it looks to me like the pillar will be exposed right between the two windows. Right where the pillar is flat and smooth. Maybe it's just my eyes though.

Silverado · 10-03-2007, 04:20 PM

Nah, that flat, smooth part of the b-pillar is where they'll glue the rubber molding that will seal up the trailing edge of the door window.

The way that the "framing" (between the B and C pillars) is recessed, they are going to attach glass to it and give it the right look from the outside.

Pencil.Fight · 10-03-2007, 04:33 PM

Ah, ok, I see it now. It's hard to get that depth perception in a flat picture like that. Hopefully the Camaro will look somewhat similar to that.

However, knowing the Camaro designers, it most likely won't...

... It will look 50 times better!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-03-2007, 06:57 PM

you almost had me! I was ready to b%tch you out for saying Camaro designers suck!

LMAO

JeepinMatt · 10-03-2007, 07:09 PM

I wonder how stiff the chassis is compared to other cars

swazworth · 10-17-2007, 08:26 AM

removed because i'm a idiot

10-02-2007, 12:10 AM	#43
The_Stache SoCal Race Team #13 Drives: 2010 1SS:RS:LS3:SW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,803 View My Garage	Its all about future crash standards that are going to be put in place.. and its not side impact.. its rollover standards.. I'll have to find the post but I think currently its set at 1/2 the cars weight and some lobbyists got that increased effective on all 2009 or 2010 production vehicles. Give me some time to find that information. Heres part of it.. Link And the poeple to blame Link And here is the ruling by the nhtsa Link __________________ A.K.A - Diarmadhi (old handle) - So much to do.. So little money Owner : Fast-Stache Industries LLC Last edited by The_Stache; 10-02-2007 at 12:29 AM.

10-02-2007, 05:01 PM	#45
gurulu68 Drives: 68 camaro rs Join Date: May 2007 Location: nj Posts: 55	It has to be the rules that have been imposed on the automakers buy the government and they don't want to take any chances. __________________

10-02-2007, 05:10 PM	#46
gurulu68 Drives: 68 camaro rs Join Date: May 2007 Location: nj Posts: 55	Even in a roll over the boron steel will hold up. I have hit a 3 1/2 foot by 6 inch flat piece of rear body panel with a 5 pound hammer as hard as I could and it didn't put a dent in it. Btw there are many grades of boron steel so they can make it as strong as they want. __________________

10-03-2007, 01:13 PM	#48
2001ragtop Drives: V8 american car Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,417	the Camaro/Dodge challenger B-pillar B pillar Attached Images

10-03-2007, 01:48 PM	#50
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	+1 I'll take it like that! GREAT FIND...I can sorta see it on a real car...hidden behind glass it doesn't look bad at all! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-02-2007, 01:47 AM	#44
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	gurulu68, You make some fine points. Now, I'd love to see what someone from GM has to say about those points. If weight isn't the issue (since it's possible it won't weigh that much), then what the heck is keeping them from reinforcing the roof and keeping that dreaded b-pillar out of there??

10-03-2007, 01:42 PM	#49
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	From the looks of that B-pillar, it seems Dodge is trying to hide theirs too. It doesn't look like the outside of that is going to be exposed at all. And in that pic above, it is assured there won't be any roll down window either. Good find.

10-03-2007, 04:20 PM	#52
Silverado GM Guy For Life Drives: 2010 GMC Yukon XL Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 971 View My Garage	Nah, that flat, smooth part of the b-pillar is where they'll glue the rubber molding that will seal up the trailing edge of the door window. The way that the "framing" (between the B and C pillars) is recessed, they are going to attach glass to it and give it the right look from the outside.

10-03-2007, 06:57 PM	#54
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	you almost had me! I was ready to b%tch you out for saying Camaro designers suck! LMAO __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-03-2007, 07:09 PM	#55
JeepinMatt Drives: '99 Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 201	I wonder how stiff the chassis is compared to other cars

10-17-2007, 08:26 AM	#56
swazworth the nerd king Drives: 2005 scion xb... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 426	removed because i'm a idiot

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