Short Throw shifter + Install - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

danrc28 · 09-30-2009, 05:34 PM

as my first mod to my camaro I was thinking of throwing in a new Short throw shifter, I was comparing the only 4 i saw out there for the V6 (ripshift, mti, MGW and hurst) and wanted to get your opinions on which would be best and which company has the better rep (from my research i saw that people really liked the mti and the MGW looks promising).

Also I was wondering if it mattered to get the shifter installed at the dealership or if we could go to any car shop without voiding the warranty.

Thanks!!

subzero05 · 10-01-2009, 12:31 AM

none will void the warranty. the hurst unit has alot of shifters out there now and many on this forum have been installing it and the feedback is excellent. not sure about the others? plus, hurst is a shifter company and thats all they do and have been around forever

blazzin1 · 10-01-2009, 07:29 AM

I don't know much about the MTI, Ripshift, or MGW, other than what has been posted on this forum. But I did purchase and self-install the hurst unit in my car. I am very, very pleased with it. It has more throw reduction than the other shifters, and is easy to install. I am pretty sure you have to drop the tranny out to install all three of the other shifters, with the Hurst, you don't. It was a pretty easy install only took me about 2 hours in my garage (and I was taking it very slow). Besides, who can refuse that classic white ball and chromed "Hurst" stick, it looks great!!!! Like the previous post said, installing a shifter will NOT void your warranty, regardless of where it is installed. Get the Hurst, you will be very happy with it, and you can save some money and do the installation yourself. Hope this helps.

Later....

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-01-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazzin1

I don't know much about the MTI, Ripshift, or MGW, other than what has been posted on this forum. But I did purchase and self-install the hurst unit in my car. I am very, very pleased with it. It has more throw reduction than the other shifters, and is easy to install. I am pretty sure you have to drop the tranny out to install all three of the other shifters, with the Hurst, you don't. It was a pretty easy install only took me about 2 hours in my garage (and I was taking it very slow). Besides, who can refuse that classic white ball and chromed "Hurst" stick, it looks great!!!! Like the previous post said, installing a shifter will NOT void your warranty, regardless of where it is installed. Get the Hurst, you will be very happy with it, and you can save some money and do the installation yourself. Hope this helps.

Later....

+1

MGW · 10-01-2009, 11:04 AM

you do not have to drop the tranny out to install the MGW unit but as stated not sure about the others. you only have to lower it slightly which takes all of literally 2 minutes to do. 4 bolts and you are done.

some key advantages of the MGW unit are...

its a COMPLETE replacement shifter not just the center shaft so it addresses several of the oem units shortcomings not just the short throw aspect.

mainly the "flex" that the stock unit has with the rubber mounting bracket in the back. the MGW unit replaces this bracket with a cnc machined bracket with hi temp poly bushings in them.

also the spring return to neutral in the stock unit is not strong enough. as you know or may not know, the STOCK unit does NOT have any internal springs it only relies on the spring back internal to the tranny. the MGW unit offers additional internal springs to make the 2-3 shift a no miss!!!

if you have a lift the install can easily be done yourself and even if you dont but have jack stands it can be done at home in your driveway or garage.

this saturday i have a gentleman coming from atlanta to do an install and we are going to video document the install step by step so it will really help you see whats involved. i think this install will be useful whether you buy the MGW Hurst or MTI unit.

regards
george

blazzin1 · 10-01-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGW

you do not have to drop the tranny out to install the MGW unit but as stated not sure about the others. you only have to lower it slightly which takes all of literally 2 minutes to do. 4 bolts and you are done.

some key advantages of the MGW unit are...

its a COMPLETE replacement shifter not just the center shaft so it addresses several of the oem units shortcomings not just the short throw aspect.

mainly the "flex" that the stock unit has with the rubber mounting bracket in the back. the MGW unit replaces this bracket with a cnc machined bracket with hi temp poly bushings in them.

also the spring return to neutral in the stock unit is not strong enough. as you know or may not know, the STOCK unit does NOT have any internal springs it only relies on the spring back internal to the tranny. the MGW unit offers additional internal springs to make the 2-3 shift a no miss!!!

if you have a lift the install can easily be done yourself and even if you dont but have jack stands it can be done at home in your driveway or garage.

this saturday i have a gentleman coming from atlanta to do an install and we are going to video document the install step by step so it will really help you see whats involved. i think this install will be useful whether you buy the MGW Hurst or MTI unit.

regards
george

Good Info George,
I guess you don't have to drop out the tranny for the MGW shifter, sounds like the same process needed for the Hurst install. I'm sure that will influence many towards purchasing the MGW with its additional upgrades over the Hurst. As for me, I'm happy with my Hurst and don't really think it needs any additional "spring-back" to neutral. But then again, I'm not a hard-core racer either, so maybe there is a need out there, but I don't need it.
BTW, how much is the MGW???? (just curious)

MGW · 10-01-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazzin1

Good Info George,
I guess you don't have to drop out the tranny for the MGW shifter, sounds like the same process needed for the Hurst install. I'm sure that will influence many towards purchasing the MGW with its additional upgrades over the Hurst. As for me, I'm happy with my Hurst and don't really think it needs any additional "spring-back" to neutral. But then again, I'm not a hard-core racer either, so maybe there is a need out there, but I don't need it.
BTW, how much is the MGW???? (just curious)

looks like it is going to be in the 375 range

george

danrc28 · 10-04-2009, 03:22 PM

Nothing for the V6 yet tho?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-04-2009, 03:25 PM

The hurst is for the V6 as will as the V8

RMGee · 10-04-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero05

none will void the warranty. the hurst unit has alot of shifters out there now and many on this forum have been installing it and the feedback is excellent. not sure about the others? plus, hurst is a shifter company and thats all they do and have been around forever

They do a lot more than shifters these days

Carlos Garza · 10-04-2009, 05:10 PM

I would love for the Hurst short shifter to be my first of many mods... Where can I buy it...?

lcmc · 10-04-2009, 05:24 PM

My mechanic installed my Hurst in 20 minutes with me bugging him and no directions. He didn't even have to loosen the crossmember like directions state.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-04-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

I would love for the Hurst short shifter to be my first of many mods... Where can I buy it...?

There are a lot of vendors on the site find one you like here.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81

Carlos Garza · 10-05-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

There are a lot of vendors on the site find one you like here.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81

Thanks, I'll check them out.

09-30-2009, 05:34 PM	#1
danrc28 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT Black on Black Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 104	Short Throw shifter + Install as my first mod to my camaro I was thinking of throwing in a new Short throw shifter, I was comparing the only 4 i saw out there for the V6 (ripshift, mti, MGW and hurst) and wanted to get your opinions on which would be best and which company has the better rep (from my research i saw that people really liked the mti and the MGW looks promising). Also I was wondering if it mattered to get the shifter installed at the dealership or if we could go to any car shop without voiding the warranty. Thanks!! Last edited by danrc28; 09-30-2009 at 05:55 PM.

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10-01-2009, 12:31 AM	#2
subzero05 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 tbd Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california Posts: 647	none will void the warranty. the hurst unit has alot of shifters out there now and many on this forum have been installing it and the feedback is excellent. not sure about the others? plus, hurst is a shifter company and thats all they do and have been around forever

10-01-2009, 07:29 AM	#3
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	I don't know much about the MTI, Ripshift, or MGW, other than what has been posted on this forum. But I did purchase and self-install the hurst unit in my car. I am very, very pleased with it. It has more throw reduction than the other shifters, and is easy to install. I am pretty sure you have to drop the tranny out to install all three of the other shifters, with the Hurst, you don't. It was a pretty easy install only took me about 2 hours in my garage (and I was taking it very slow). Besides, who can refuse that classic white ball and chromed "Hurst" stick, it looks great!!!! Like the previous post said, installing a shifter will NOT void your warranty, regardless of where it is installed. Get the Hurst, you will be very happy with it, and you can save some money and do the installation yourself. Hope this helps. Later....

10-01-2009, 11:04 AM	#5
MGW Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: AUGUSTA, GA Posts: 235	you do not have to drop the tranny out to install the MGW unit but as stated not sure about the others. you only have to lower it slightly which takes all of literally 2 minutes to do. 4 bolts and you are done. some key advantages of the MGW unit are... its a COMPLETE replacement shifter not just the center shaft so it addresses several of the oem units shortcomings not just the short throw aspect. mainly the "flex" that the stock unit has with the rubber mounting bracket in the back. the MGW unit replaces this bracket with a cnc machined bracket with hi temp poly bushings in them. also the spring return to neutral in the stock unit is not strong enough. as you know or may not know, the STOCK unit does NOT have any internal springs it only relies on the spring back internal to the tranny. the MGW unit offers additional internal springs to make the 2-3 shift a no miss!!! if you have a lift the install can easily be done yourself and even if you dont but have jack stands it can be done at home in your driveway or garage. this saturday i have a gentleman coming from atlanta to do an install and we are going to video document the install step by step so it will really help you see whats involved. i think this install will be useful whether you buy the MGW Hurst or MTI unit. regards george

10-04-2009, 03:22 PM	#8
danrc28 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT Black on Black Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 104	Nothing for the V6 yet tho?

10-04-2009, 03:25 PM	#9
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	The hurst is for the V6 as will as the V8

10-04-2009, 05:10 PM	#11
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	I would love for the Hurst short shifter to be my first of many mods... Where can I buy it...?

10-04-2009, 05:24 PM	#12
lcmc Drives: 1987 IROC Z convertible Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 103	My mechanic installed my Hurst in 20 minutes with me bugging him and no directions. He didn't even have to loosen the crossmember like directions state.