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Old 08-25-2008, 10:18 AM   #169
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Yes all Dodge makes is GAS GUZZLING OBESE PIGS lol... they will be lucky to survive 5 years more like 3 , look at there truck (HEMI) sales are horrible hell they can't even give them away , too bad I did like the 60s and early 70s mopars but times are changing... CHEVY HAS THE VOLT WHICH MANY SAY IS THE FUTURE OF THE COMPANY AND WILL SAVE THEM plus they have the most fuel efficient line up of all the Manufacturers even more than TOYOTA or HONDA , Ford is also smart by using a 4.6 l in there Stang to save fuel I think the LEGENDARY 5.0 will be back for the 2010 Stang it makes sense for the times , a small block with high HP and good fuel economy I doubt they will use the 6.2L they were talkin about it is just too big , they will also offer the ECOBOOST for the GT again to save fuel and give cosumers choice ,remember they only use a 5.4 in the Shelby GT 500 there top dog , plus Ford is rumored to be working on a similar vehicle as the VOLT they know they have to...

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Old 08-25-2008, 10:43 AM   #170
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Ford knows it needs to compete in order to maintain market leadership...
the only reason they have "market leadership" now is because they are the only one in the game. well, the chally just came out but it's too soon to tell how they match up...

you never know, ferd could pull an AMC and sneak in a left hook that makes your legs go all rubbery - a la AMX...
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:13 PM   #171
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how many threads are you going to post this in?
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:11 PM   #172
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the only reason they have "market leadership" now is because they are the only one in the game. well, the chally just came out but it's too soon to tell how they match up...

you never know, ferd could pull an AMC and sneak in a left hook that makes your legs go all rubbery - a la AMX...
Thank you! I've been saying this for years.
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Old 08-25-2008, 03:14 PM   #173
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Please.......

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please? pretty please??
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:28 AM   #174
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The SS looks super-tough in those scans!
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:34 AM   #175
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you said used... he's talking new. BIG difference.

all new cars take a depreciation hit when they cross the curb out of the dealership. it's all about the first year. i know i can wait one or two model years and then buy one used for about half what they cost new. it's just the nature of the beast.

this is also why the first year's payments are all interest. the bank wants to be sure they get their money up front as opposed to in later years. if they waited for their money, people would never be "uypside down" on their loan (owing more than the car is worth) because you would be making principal-only payments. the only way out of this is to pay off the loan early or pay cash for the car. either way, you still take the hit on depreciation.
Thanks Jim and I believe I said top dog for 2002 which I believe was the Z28 And you are right about depreciation, I think it is 15% just by driving it off the dealers lot.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:55 AM   #176
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Thanks Jim and I believe I said top dog for 2002 which I believe was the Z28 And you are right about depreciation, I think it is 15% just by driving it off the dealers lot.
There was no 2002 SS?
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:29 AM   #177
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Where is the rest of this pic set? Fergie bending over the hood. Fergie on the back. Fergie on the bumper etc..??
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Thanks Jim and I believe I said top dog for 2002 which I believe was the Z28 And you are right about depreciation, I think it is 15% just by driving it off the dealers lot.
I'm pretty sure the SS was top dog in 2002.

SS Performance/Handling pkg.= 325hp
Z28= 305hp
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:09 AM   #179
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:15 AM   #180
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:50 AM   #181
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I'm pretty sure the SS was top dog in 2002.

SS Performance/Handling pkg.= 325hp
Z28= 305hp

See there you go, that whole Top Dawg thing again. Thanks for pointing this out as I assumed (which I shouldn't have) that the Z28 was Camaro King. So the SS was obviously more money than the Z28 in 2002?
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Wait, I found this article .... "For 2002 the Chevrolet Camaro Z28's price has went up quite substantially, especially equipped with the 'SS' (super sport) package. My test car with the preferred equipment package had a sticker price of almost $30,000 dollars! This is still a good value, but is not going to attract more customers into the showrooms. Reliability has been very good with both the base models and the Z28/SS Camaro's. I have heard of people with 100,000 miles already on their 1998 models, and have had hardly had any problems. If anything does go wrong with your 2002 Z28, Chevy backs it up with a 'average' 3 year 36,000 mile bumper-bumper warranty, I believe an extended warranty can be purchased at an extra cost."

I'm confused, so this was a Z28 with a Super Sport (SS) package or is the person who wrote this just retarded?
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