order a new camaro for export to belgium

[cbodson]

Hello,
I want to buy a new camaro for export in Belgium, someone could give me the details of a dealer that can provide me. What are the waiting times ?

[Xanthos]

Hi and welcome to the site!

Seems like a question for scotty!
- Xanthos

[Sanouk]

Originally Posted by cbodson

Hello,
I want to buy a new camaro for export in Belgium, someone could give me the details of a dealer that can provide me. What are the waiting times ?

welcome to the site!

Difficult but possible

Contact I by MP

[spaRTan]

Hi,

I'm discussing this topic with Scotty as I'm preparing to export a Camaro to Germany which is virtually the same thing (AKA Europe [the thing to the east for most of you guys]^^).
The main problem seems to be the absence of an address in the USA to preorder the car and get the official stuff sent to. buying directly from the dealer "when it's out" isn't a alternative for me as I don't want to wait till august or september...
Import companies in Germany are calling about $67000 for the Camaro 2SS/RS so that would be the "worst case situation". :/

The optimum would be to buy a car for the Canadian market (amber signal lights, metric dials) and sent it to Europe from Halifax oder Montreal. If you want imperial dials you can go with a normal US version but don't forget to check whether you're allowed to have red turning indicators in Belgium (in Germany you're only allowed if there're no amber lights available).

All in all it's quite hard. I'm thinking about letting my family members (living in the States) buy one.
The main problem would be to organize the transport as you'd have to transport it from the dealer to the harbour directly to avoid paying sales tax.

Any hints are appreciated!

[StuMac]

Originally Posted by spaRTan

Hi,

I'm discussing this topic with Scotty as I'm preparing to export a Camaro to Germany which is virtually the same thing (AKA Europe [the thing to the east for most of you guys]^^).
The main problem seems to be the absence of an address in the USA to preorder the car and get the official stuff sent to. buying directly from the dealer "when it's out" isn't a alternative for me as I don't want to wait till august or september...
Import companies in Germany are calling about $67000 for the Camaro 2SS/RS so that would be the "worst case situation". :/

The optimum would be to buy a car for the Canadian market (amber signal lights, metric dials) and sent it to Europe from Halifax oder Montreal. If you want imperial dials you can go with a normal US version but don't forget to check whether you're allowed to have red turning indicators in Belgium (in Germany you're only allowed if there're no amber lights available).

All in all it's quite hard. I'm thinking about letting my family members (living in the States) buy one.
The main problem would be to organize the transport as you'd have to transport it from the dealer to the harbour directly to avoid paying sales tax.

Any hints are appreciated!

Not sure how easy it will be to get one from Canada, when I was arranging one through e-mail the dealer wanted to make absolutely sure I wasn't going to resell it overseas. I'm pretty sure you'll need someone local to buy it and then send it to you, at least from Canada, and even then you can't let the dealer know it's going overseas. Probably something in the franchise agreement or international trade laws.

[spaRTan]

Originally Posted by StuMac

Not sure how easy it will be to get one from Canada, when I was arranging one through e-mail the dealer wanted to make absolutely sure I wasn't going to resell it overseas. I'm pretty sure you'll need someone local to buy it and then send it to you, at least from Canada, and even then you can't let the dealer know it's going overseas. Probably something in the franchise agreement or international trade laws.

sometimes it's pretty good to have family in the States.
I think I'll call them...

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by spaRTan

Hi,

I'm discussing this topic with Scotty as I'm preparing to export a Camaro to Germany which is virtually the same thing (AKA Europe [the thing to the east for most of you guys]^^).
The main problem seems to be the absence of an address in the USA to preorder the car and get the official stuff sent to. buying directly from the dealer "when it's out" isn't a alternative for me as I don't want to wait till august or september...
Import companies in Germany are calling about $67000 for the Camaro 2SS/RS so that would be the "worst case situation". :/

The optimum would be to buy a car for the Canadian market (amber signal lights, metric dials) and sent it to Europe from Halifax oder Montreal. If you want imperial dials you can go with a normal US version but don't forget to check whether you're allowed to have red turning indicators in Belgium (in Germany you're only allowed if there're no amber lights available).

All in all it's quite hard. I'm thinking about letting my family members (living in the States) buy one.
The main problem would be to organize the transport as you'd have to transport it from the dealer to the harbour directly to avoid paying sales tax.

Any hints are appreciated!

Here's a hint. For $67000.00 US, you can have mine and you'll get it "quick" I would assume, having ordered on day one at a dealer with the 2nd largest allocation in the US... I can wait a while to get mine basically for free...

[NUCAR]

Originally Posted by spaRTan

Hi,

I'm discussing this topic with Scotty as I'm preparing to export a Camaro to Germany which is virtually the same thing (AKA Europe [the thing to the east for most of you guys]^^).
The main problem seems to be

mentioning this discussion on a public forum. Knowing selling a vehicle for export violates a dealership's franchise agreement with GM. Not the thing to be doing today.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by NUCAR

mentioning this discussion on a public forum. Knowing selling a vehicle for export violates a dealership's franchise agreement with GM. Not the thing to be doing today.

That I was not aware of.
- Xanthos

[CamaroScotty]

Originally Posted by NUCAR

mentioning this discussion on a public forum. Knowing selling a vehicle for export violates a dealership's franchise agreement with GM. Not the thing to be doing today.

He has no deal with me, and I mentioned that we can only sell to customers living in the USA. I am WELL AWARE our cars cannot be sold to go out of the country.

[NUCAR]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

He has no deal with me, and I mentioned that we can only sell to customers living in the USA. I am WELL AWARE our cars cannot be sold to go out of the country.

I knew you now...I didn't want him to imply here that you did not. See you at the IDL

[cbodson]

In belgium there are no official gm dealer who sell camaro 5, perhaps you can find a dealer who sell OPEL and perhaps they could provide one but it is not certain and they have no official documentations.
i don't think that there is a dealership's franchise agreement with GM (chevrolet) in belgium.

[spaRTan]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

He has no deal with me,

and that makes me sad!

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

and I mentioned that we can only sell to customers living in the USA. I am WELL AWARE our cars cannot be sold to go out of the country.

and that's why I'll either pay some more bucks (well, nearly twice as much) or have to visit friends and family and get one.

I think GM is happy about each and every car they can sell.
IMHO having 10 to 15 Camaros driving around in Germany would have incredible impact on GM's reputation over here.

[diddiyo]

I work for a German logistics company here in the US, people are sending cars over to Europe all the time with us. Mostly used cars though. While I'm not directly involved in the process, I'm sure I could gather some information for you.

As far as I know, if you have legally lived in the US and have owned the car for a certain time you can write it off as a "moving item" when you're moving back to Europe (A friend of mine did just that and a lot of colleagues of mine bought new cars with the intention of taking it back to Germany in a few years). I doubt though that would work if for example your family buys the car, keeps it for half a year and then sells it to you...

*edit*
if you're from Belgium, try contacting "Autohaus Werkmeister" in Bitburg, Germany www.werkmeister.de (it's fairly close to Belgium). They're selling Cadillac/Hummer/Corvettes etc and I went there just for fun when I was in Germany over Christmas. I was only able to talk to the receptionist since the salesperson wasn't available and she knew about the Camaro, but didn't really have any info on it.