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96CAMaro · 07-15-2008, 01:37 PM

What kind of weight to horsepower ratios are you guys expecting for the base model Camaro to have? What are everyone's thoughts?

I was just doing some math, and not taking into consideration many other factors, such as TQ, aerodynamics, engine displacement, suspension, etc, a 405 hp Camaro theoretically would be equivalent to a 375hp Camaro weighing in at roughly 3600 lbs. This is assuming that the new Camaro is a fat pig (3900lbs) and has 405 hp. That's what, a LS1 6M with an exhaust (375hp)?

96CAMaro · 07-15-2008, 01:38 PM

Oh, when I say "base model Camaro" I mean the base model V8 Camaro.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-15-2008, 01:46 PM

"Fat Pig" is a phrase reserved for Challenger.

Even IF the Camaro comes in that hefty, the team will make it feel right.

But anyways...if I was to offer up a guess....I'd say it'll land somewhere in the neighborhood of 9.5-10 lbs/hp.

Dan · 07-15-2008, 01:53 PM

I think you just offended fat pigs everywhere.

*radz28* · 07-15-2008, 01:57 PM

Oink oink

4thGen · 07-15-2008, 01:57 PM

GM has had plenty of time to make things right. I'm sure power to weight ratio will be one of them.

96CAMaro · 07-15-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

"Fat Pig" is a phrase reserved for Challenger.

Even IF the Camaro comes in that hefty, the team will make it feel right.

But anyways...if I was to offer up a guess....I'd say it'll land somewhere in the neighborhood of 9.5-10 lbs/hp.

CaptianSam · 07-15-2008, 06:37 PM

the great things about modular gm enignes is how easily "extra" performance is to attain... even 'if' we just get the accliamed ls3... gains will come on failry early and they will be most likely warrenty-able, examble ls3 cam...
header gaines have been very strong on ls3 vettes and tuning alone can yield big gain... this is a good idea.... giving us a good benchmark and building block while still constricting to the bs gov'nt

The_Stache · 07-15-2008, 07:08 PM

This came up A LONG time ago.. here was a comparison I did...

Link to comparison spreadsheet

I also still stand by my estimate (except for the year though)

Here is the thread it was in...

ralniv · 07-15-2008, 07:14 PM

I'd assume a power to weight ratio of about 0.12 hp/lbs.

I'm guessing at 420 hp for the base V8 (LS3) and a curb weight of 3,500 lbm. These numbers are derived from the 2006 GTO (400 hp @ 3,725 lbs).

4thGen · 07-15-2008, 11:00 PM

Personally, I think the curb weight will be about 3650lbs.

Cessna510 · 07-16-2008, 12:17 AM

I'll be a little bummed if they weight in at 3900 pounds

4thGen · 07-17-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cessna510

I'll be a little bummed if they weight in at 3900 pounds

I don't think it will. I think it will weigh under 3800lbs.

96CAMaro · 07-17-2008, 04:38 PM

I think a Camaro weighing in at 3800 pounds and having 420 hp/tq would be a very good package. I want a Camaro that runs like a raped ape. I'm thinking along the lines of a Camaro that will start pulling on a 2002 WS-6 or Camaro SS.

07-15-2008, 01:37 PM	#1
96CAMaro Drives: '02 Impreza 2.5RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 304	lbs/hp ratio What kind of weight to horsepower ratios are you guys expecting for the base model Camaro to have? What are everyone's thoughts? I was just doing some math, and not taking into consideration many other factors, such as TQ, aerodynamics, engine displacement, suspension, etc, a 405 hp Camaro theoretically would be equivalent to a 375hp Camaro weighing in at roughly 3600 lbs. This is assuming that the new Camaro is a fat pig (3900lbs) and has 405 hp. That's what, a LS1 6M with an exhaust (375hp)?

07-15-2008, 01:46 PM	#3
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07-15-2008, 07:08 PM	#9
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07-15-2008, 01:38 PM	#2
96CAMaro Drives: '02 Impreza 2.5RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 304	Oh, when I say "base model Camaro" I mean the base model V8 Camaro.

07-15-2008, 01:53 PM	#4
Dan Drives: 2004 GTO Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 448	I think you just offended fat pigs everywhere.

07-15-2008, 01:57 PM	#6
4thGen Drives: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 141	GM has had plenty of time to make things right. I'm sure power to weight ratio will be one of them.

07-15-2008, 07:14 PM	#10
ralniv Drives: far too much Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern CA Posts: 72	I'd assume a power to weight ratio of about 0.12 hp/lbs. I'm guessing at 420 hp for the base V8 (LS3) and a curb weight of 3,500 lbm. These numbers are derived from the 2006 GTO (400 hp @ 3,725 lbs).

07-15-2008, 11:00 PM	#11
4thGen Drives: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 141	Personally, I think the curb weight will be about 3650lbs.

07-16-2008, 12:17 AM	#12
Cessna510 Gm loyalist Drives: 04 z71 tahoe\99 SS m6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Baxter Springs Ks Posts: 362	I'll be a little bummed if they weight in at 3900 pounds __________________

07-17-2008, 04:38 PM	#14
96CAMaro Drives: '02 Impreza 2.5RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 304	I think a Camaro weighing in at 3800 pounds and having 420 hp/tq would be a very good package. I want a Camaro that runs like a raped ape. I'm thinking along the lines of a Camaro that will start pulling on a 2002 WS-6 or Camaro SS.