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Mkn95u0 · 06-24-2013, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Busy_Boi

Your numbers do seem real low I have the Edelbrock SC. I think you need to get the tune check. And also your going to need to the JRE fuel line mod for it if your want to get more power out of it. Here is the link for the fuel mod http://www.jreperformanceparts.com/j...el-system.html.
If you looking for the 3.5 pulley I have one with the belt if your look for the pulley you can P.M. me. And also you can call Haddad Motorsports (310) 412-8032 ask for Mike
he can help with the tune.

Pm sent.. as for the fuel system, the site says 52lb injectors... the kit I got already included these with it... I'll put Haddad motorsports on my list for contacts tomorrow as well.

Nitroman28 · 06-24-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

318rwhp bone stock, I entered with 369rwhp with LTH, cai, flowmasters, no cats no tune... came out with 443 sc'd, tuned and cai kinda became obsolete since they hacked it up... AEM custom built a new one for us shortly after, but didn't get it re tuned yet.

I was at 428 with just a cam in my L99,

Mkn95u0 · 06-24-2013, 12:36 PM

So back to the original subject... Throttle Body upgrade, any recommendations on brand?

Supercharged SS · 06-24-2013, 12:38 PM

In a 102 mm you have 2 choices. Nick Williams and TPIS. The NW 102 has major issues on higher boost builds but you may be ok. The TPIS takes a little work to dial it in but works with all the blowers.

Mkn95u0 · 06-24-2013, 01:19 PM

did BBK just come out with one, or is it not trusted? i saw the one for NW, but didn't see one for TPiS

Supercharged SS · 06-24-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

did BBK just come out with one, or is it not trusted? i saw the one for NW, but didn't see one for TPiS

The bbk one was supposed to be released a little while ago. As far as I know it's not available yet but I haven't followed it.

Mkn95u0 · 06-24-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

The bbk one was supposed to be released a little while ago. As far as I know it's not available yet but I haven't followed it.

Yeah, that's what i'm starting to see... all the sites have them listed for sale, but none actually have any 'real' inventory even though the site says they do ha.

I read a thread on here just moments ago saying another few weeks... which i guess has been going on for a few months now...

Supercharged SS · 06-24-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

Yeah, that's what i'm starting to see... all the sites have them listed for sale, but none actually have any 'real' inventory even though the site says they do ha.

I read a thread on here just moments ago saying another few weeks... which i guess has been going on for a few months now...

It's been a few weeks for a few months now. You can do the math...

I wouldn't hold your breath. The NW 102 is a great piece, as long as it doesn't slam shut on you.

E.T. · 06-24-2013, 01:44 PM

FWIW, my shop dyno'd my car with full bolt-ons, and then again after the Maggie. It gained almost 150 whp.

blufin · 06-24-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

In a 102 mm you have 2 choices. Nick Williams and TPIS. The NW 102 has major issues on higher boost builds but you may be ok. The TPIS takes a little work to dial it in but works with all the blowers.

What do you consider higher boost?

Also, the problem with the NW 102 slamming shut, is that an issue with all of them or just the older ones?

Supercharged SS · 06-24-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blufin

What do you consider higher boost?

Also, the problem with the NW 102 slamming shut, is that an issue with all of them or just the older ones?

The NW seems to fail when you start pushing the pd blowers up past 14 psi, give or take a psi or so. Mine failed closer to 16 but some do a bit less.

It's an issue with all the NW 102's. I've tried all the revised ones. We tried 4 in one day at the camaro fest last year.

blufin · 06-24-2013, 03:43 PM

I would assume my 9-10lbs would be safe?

Porting: Does only the edge where the TB and snout meet need to be ported, or all the way back?

Mkn95u0 · 06-24-2013, 03:59 PM

i got a hold of CBM Motorsports, this guy has basically said what is on this thread - numbers seem low and should estimate 20hp w/ each # of boost... he also didn't knock the edelbrock SC... so, it looks like i may have a winning tune shop to go with. quoted me $600 for tune and would install the pulley and belt for me included... not bad

VADER SS L99 · 06-24-2013, 05:24 PM

Those #'s are low but its the overall gain thats pathetic. Something is not right there. I would think you should have gained double that.

06-24-2013, 12:36 PM	#31
Mkn95u0 Drives: 2012 IBM L99 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 484 View My Garage	So back to the original subject... Throttle Body upgrade, any recommendations on brand? __________________ Robert 12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 \| 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 \| 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 \| 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 \| 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM

06-24-2013, 01:19 PM	#33
Mkn95u0 Drives: 2012 IBM L99 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 484 View My Garage	did BBK just come out with one, or is it not trusted? i saw the one for NW, but didn't see one for TPiS __________________ Robert 12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 \| 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 \| 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 \| 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 \| 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM

06-24-2013, 01:44 PM	#37
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,251	FWIW, my shop dyno'd my car with full bolt-ons, and then again after the Maggie. It gained almost 150 whp. __________________

06-24-2013, 03:43 PM	#40
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	I would assume my 9-10lbs would be safe? Porting: Does only the edge where the TB and snout meet need to be ported, or all the way back? __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

06-24-2013, 03:59 PM	#41
Mkn95u0 Drives: 2012 IBM L99 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 484 View My Garage	i got a hold of CBM Motorsports, this guy has basically said what is on this thread - numbers seem low and should estimate 20hp w/ each # of boost... he also didn't knock the edelbrock SC... so, it looks like i may have a winning tune shop to go with. quoted me $600 for tune and would install the pulley and belt for me included... not bad __________________ Robert 12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 \| 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 \| 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 \| 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 \| 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM

06-24-2013, 12:38 PM	#32
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	In a 102 mm you have 2 choices. Nick Williams and TPIS. The NW 102 has major issues on higher boost builds but you may be ok. The TPIS takes a little work to dial it in but works with all the blowers.

06-24-2013, 05:24 PM	#42
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	Those #'s are low but its the overall gain thats pathetic. Something is not right there. I would think you should have gained double that. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.