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RLHMARINES · 07-21-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CRTZL1

Yes it does.. I just read the break down and it's very impressive actually. But these are things you would definitely expect at 60 k plus pricing and 700 + hp..
I love my ZL1 but it's not even mentioned when comparing it to this car in some articles.... people talk about it being 3rd place, the one article doesn't even mention the ZL1 as a contender, they compare it to the Viper, GT500 , and Corvette... this is bull crap, Chevy better up the game for the new platform and so far I'm not to impressed with the 6 Gen platform pictures!

Why, have you seen the 6th Gen Camaro in the flesh, other than the cobbled up prototype pics? How can you even make such a statement without knowing and seeing what's coming in the future car. Calm down and have faith.

hotlap · 07-21-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by v8

Very True, but we may of not had the ZL1 had it not been for the 550hp GT500 which was well before the ZL1.

Or the 500 HP 2007 GT500. Crossing the 500 HP mark was as big a deal then as the 700 mark is now

CRTZL1 · 07-21-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

Why, have you seen the 6th Gen Camaro in the flesh, other than the cobbled up prototype pics? How can you even make such a statement without knowing and seeing what's coming in the future car. Calm down and have faith.

No I have just seen the pictures like everyone else from that one thread on here. It is early yet but that's why I said ' so far '... didn't impress me yet.. hopefully in time it will...
And Yes I do have faith but what I don't have is patience.

BaylorCamaro · 07-21-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CRTZL1

Yes it does.. I just read the break down and it's very impressive actually. But these are things you would definitely expect at 60 k plus pricing and 700 + hp..
I love my ZL1 but it's not even mentioned when comparing it to this car in some articles.... people talk about it being 3rd place, the one article doesn't even mention the ZL1 as a contender, they compare it to the Viper, GT500 , and Corvette... this is bull crap, Chevy better up the game for the new platform and so far I'm not to impressed with the 6 Gen platform pictures!

Straight line yeah it kinda sucks, stock for stock. Not so much for road course (I can't speak for the Hellcat yet) which is where I'm living at these days. So I'm fine

RLHMARINES · 07-21-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CRTZL1

No I have just seen the pictures like everyone else from that one thread on here. It is early yet but that's why I said ' so far '... didn't impress me yet.. hopefully in time it will...
And Yes I do have faith but what I don't have is patience.

I feel you on that! Patience is a virtue, young grasshopper.LOL

Alain · 07-21-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRTZL1

Yes it does.. I just read the break down and it's very impressive actually. But these are things you would definitely expect at 60 k plus pricing and 700 + hp..
I love my ZL1 but it's not even mentioned when comparing it to this car in some articles.... people talk about it being 3rd place, the one article doesn't even mention the ZL1 as a contender, they compare it to the Viper, GT500 , and Corvette... this is bull crap, Chevy better up the game for the new platform and so far I'm not to impressed with the 6 Gen platform pictures!

What article are you referring to ?

detltu · 07-21-2014, 02:45 PM

Well Chevy has the 650hp LT4 laying around to compete with the Gt500/Hellcat, but it will likely still be in 3rd place in terms of pure horsepower. Also the LT4 is probably hand built, and they likely would want to bring the costs down some for the Camaro. It will be interesting to see what the Camaro gets or if Chevy even intends to continue competing with the horsepower wars. I wouldn't be surprised to see Chevy ditch the ZL1 and drop the LT4 into a Z/28 replacement that is something of a compromise between the current Z/28 and ZL-1. Make it a little more streetable than the current Z/28, dominate the other pony/muscle cars on the track, and have enough horsepower to remain competitive on the drag strip.

tnspd · 07-21-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tones2SS

Yes indeed.
Have you seen this video? Bad Ass!

http://youtu.be/gpGdPIkSL3k

First thing cars is going to need is a short throw shifter. You see how far he has to move that shifter. Good grief....

CRTZL1 · 07-21-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tnspd

First thing cars is going to need is a short throw shifter. You see how far he has to move that shifter. Good grief....

That and the shifter itself looks like it's going to pop right out... looks like a ton of play in it... blah!!

Johnman · 07-21-2014, 02:53 PM

Well, if you want the most powerful pony car convertible, the ZL1 is now #1, since GT 500 production has ceased. Let's take comfort in that for now!

96MrBass · 07-21-2014, 03:18 PM

IMO. I would rather see it more competitive in the 1/4 than hp it's not that far off as it is.

CRTZL1 · 07-21-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 96MrBass

IMO. I would rather see it more competitive in the 1/4 than hp it's not that far off as it is.

Well Yes that's the idea but you need weight reduction or more HP to make it happen...
and 127 hp difference is significant!

CRTZL1 · 07-21-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alain

What article are you referring to ?

This first article is the one I'm referring to as far as not mentioning the ZL1

And the second is of the detailed write up of it's equipment and what the hell cat is made of...

http://m.motortrend.com/wot/1407_201...end_video.html

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/hemi/hellcat.html

96MrBass · 07-21-2014, 04:14 PM

There's already lightly modded ZL1's with less hp putting down times as quick aren't there?

07-21-2014, 02:45 PM	#427
detltu Drives: 1992 Z28 1LE; 2015 Zl1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 866 View My Garage	Well Chevy has the 650hp LT4 laying around to compete with the Gt500/Hellcat, but it will likely still be in 3rd place in terms of pure horsepower. Also the LT4 is probably hand built, and they likely would want to bring the costs down some for the Camaro. It will be interesting to see what the Camaro gets or if Chevy even intends to continue competing with the horsepower wars. I wouldn't be surprised to see Chevy ditch the ZL1 and drop the LT4 into a Z/28 replacement that is something of a compromise between the current Z/28 and ZL-1. Make it a little more streetable than the current Z/28, dominate the other pony/muscle cars on the track, and have enough horsepower to remain competitive on the drag strip. __________________ 1989 Camaro RS convertible- Sold 1999 Camaro SS - Stolen 2x 1991 Camaro Z28- 1991 Camaro Z28 1LE- 1992 Camaro Z28 1LE- 25th anniversary 2015 Camaro ZL1

07-21-2014, 03:18 PM	#431
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	IMO. I would rather see it more competitive in the 1/4 than hp it's not that far off as it is. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

07-21-2014, 04:14 PM	#434
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	There's already lightly modded ZL1's with less hp putting down times as quick aren't there? __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

07-21-2014, 02:53 PM	#430
Johnman Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 convertible IOM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lewisville, TX Posts: 270	Well, if you want the most powerful pony car convertible, the ZL1 is now #1, since GT 500 production has ceased. Let's take comfort in that for now!