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Old 01-25-2013, 09:50 PM   #15
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gears

With the mods that i am doing this winter the gear change was one that i wanted to make the right call .

Thanks for the feedback
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:44 AM   #16
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The LS3 cars should have came with 3.70's from the factory as well as the L99 cars should have come with 3.45's from the factory, IMHO. Guess the EPA fuel numbers might have caused a gas guzzler tax with the increased gear. The seemingly small ratio change makes 6th ( manual ) so much more usable, there is a definite increase in acceleration in all gears ( very noticeable on the road course ), with stock diameter tires 80mph is 2,000 rpm so the car still gets great fuel economy on the road and isn't loud due to engine rpm. With my mild engine mods and 3.70 gears I still get 24.6 mpg on the highway. I'm sure the 3.91's are great also although they might shorten up 1st a bit too much for my taste. Even though the 3.91's weren't out when I installed the 3.70's, if I had it to do all over again I'd still take the 3.70's.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:00 PM   #17
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I'm going to end up doing the same thing.
I dont want to go to aggressive so just the jump up to 3.45 will be enough for me
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:43 PM   #18
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Padre swapped his stock gears for LS3, 3:45s. He also documented his track times.
He said the gears made daily driving better (especially once he got his cam), but he didn't see much of any gain at the track.
12.06 @ 114.0 mph - stock gears
12.02 @ 113.9 mph - 3:45 gears
Both times corrected for DA for comparison.

So don't expect much improvement at the track with them.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:57 PM   #19
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Padre swapped his stock gears for LS3, 3:45s. He also documented his track times.
He said the gears made daily driving better (especially once he got his cam), but he didn't see much of any gain at the track.
12.06 @ 114.0 mph - stock gears
12.02 @ 113.9 mph - 3:45 gears
Both times corrected for DA for comparison.

So don't expect much improvement at the track with them.
That's depressing lol I was hoping for atleast .3 difference. Could you post a link so I can view that thread.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:18 PM   #20
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That's depressing lol I was hoping for atleast .3 difference. Could you post a link so I can view that thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128997
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:20 PM   #21
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When we experimented with gears at the track the 3.45's allowed the car to be in 4th longer, at higher rpms, resulting in higher trap speeds and lower ET's.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #22
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So it basically seems that if you are looking to improve et's then 3.25 to 3.45 are a waste of $. So I guess I am back to looking at LPE 3.70 gears. I have considered 3.91 but I think they might be to much gear for my auto especially with the insane 1st gear. I would definitely need slicks to get it to hook. I doubt my nt05r could hook. Also with the 3.91 I'm afraid it would shift right before the traps. Are my assumptions about the 3.91's correct?
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So it basically seems that if you are looking to improve et's then 3.25 to 3.45 are a waste of $. So I guess I am back to looking at LPE 3.70 gears. I have considered 3.91 but I think they might be to much gear for my auto especially with the insane 1st gear. I would definitely need slicks to get it to hook. I doubt my nt05r could hook. Also with the 3.91 I'm afraid it would shift right before the traps. Are my assumptions about the 3.91's correct?
No it's not a waste. There's a reason all the fast cars are running the 3.45's.

More than likely the 3.91 will be to much gear. What's the rwhp of the car?
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:59 PM   #24
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No it's not a waste. There's a reason all the fast cars are running the 3.45's.

More than likely the 3.91 will be to much gear. What's the rwhp of the car?
Right now my car just has bolt ons 371rwhp 387rwtq. I also have a stall going in soon.

And I will be going FI in the future.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:02 PM   #25
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FI= 3.45 in most cases it seems.
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Right now my car just has bolt ons 371rwhp 387rwtq. I also have a stall going in soon.

And I will be going FI in the future.
I'd put the 3.45's and be done with it. You could get away with a 3.91 now but once you go FI forget about that. All you'll do is blow the tires off and cross in 5th.
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I'd put the 3.45's and be done with it. You could get away with a 3.91 now but once you go FI forget about that. All you'll do is blow the tires off and cross in 5th.
Alright so 3.45 will yield minimum gains now but later on it will come into play when I go FI. Yea that's what I thought about the 3.91. Thanks all for the your advice
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:15 PM   #28
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If you would have 3.91's and your trap speed would be 120mph. The rpm's would be 6500.
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