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spd98 · 02-24-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pondo

I used to work for an engine oil additive company working on proprietary additive packages for leading oil companies. The weakest link is your oil filter and soot when running synthetic oil. Synthetic oils may be a LITTLE better at suspending solids but still marginally better than dino oil which means sludge will still build up in your engine. Increase the oil capacity will dilute the sludge meaning you can go a little longer before reaching the same detrimental effects...

Oil change intervals very depending on your climate, area of use, and driving habits. I've seen engines run for 25,000 miles nonstop 24/7 in the testing bay with synthetic oil and have vertually identical viscosity and lubricating parameters; however, the cylinder walls were still scratched. On analysis, the oil had very high amounts of aluminum and suspended carbon deposits.

I change the oil in my cars with mobile 1 10w30 full syn every 5,000 miles. I drive my cars like I stole them.

I will change the oil in my Camaro after break-in though. From there on, every 5k should do the trick.

I have personally ran all the tests listed in this PDF... http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf
Amsoil is listed #1 in all the tests...my personal results varied a bit but mobile 1 and amsoil were neck and neck!

If you notice RP wasn't included in any of those tests. And none of those tests showed film strength unless I miss that one. That is probobly the single most important factor in an oil for bearing applications. RP has the HIGHEST film strength(in independant ANSI tests) which means the greatest load supporting ability. And ultimatly film destablization of some kind will cause you go to failure.

For those talking penzol doesn't it still use a ton of wax as a base? I know it a QS used to be horrible about that.

that said I run mobil in my daily but I am considering changing as Mobil hasn't performed well in recent testing (they didn't defend themselves either).

Robert91RS · 02-24-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spd98

If you notice RP wasn't included in any of those tests. And none of those tests showed film strength unless I miss that one. That is probobly the single most important factor in an oil for bearing applications. RP has the HIGHEST film strength(in independant ANSI tests) which means the greatest load supporting ability. And ultimatly film destablization of some kind will cause you go to failure.

For those talking penzol doesn't it still use a ton of wax as a base? I know it a QS used to be horrible about that.

that said I run mobil in my daily but I am considering changing as Mobil hasn't performed well in recent testing (they didn't defend themselves either).

I did notice that.

Embalmer · 04-30-2009, 03:33 PM

The Camaro says to use "5W-30" right on the oil cap....

2SSJIM · 04-30-2009, 03:51 PM

I will be using Royal Purple Oil in the eng., Tranny and rear.... Don't really care what it costs!

Gentry78 · 05-16-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSJIM

I will be using Royal Purple Oil in the eng., Tranny and rear.... Don't really care what it costs!

same here

Vash · 05-16-2009, 09:18 PM

Going over 5 to 7k is not a good idea. Whatever company would even suggest that should be shot. Carbon and other stuff get's in the oil, reguardless of how much it can still lube it's gonna get dirty.

Plus if something major in the engine or tranny goes out they are gonna be looking at your maint records to see if stuff was changed on schedule and with approved fluids.

Miketebo22 · 06-16-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

There is a reason why every single manufacturer says they score the best among other leading brands. They only do the tests on other brands that they know will score lower then they do.

i agree...notice how royal purple isnt in that test anywhere? thats what im going to be using...

UCI CamaroFan · 06-18-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSSforme

I heard the LS3 doesn't need oil changes...You just change out engines every 250,000 miles.

Old Toyota engines that were used in like Africa and other third world nations were like that... they ran for 100k+ miles.

Also... my truck takes 15 quarts lol

fieldgoal00 · 07-06-2009, 05:35 PM

I changed the oil out at 838 b/c we were heading on a trip to Houston the next day. I read somewhere that the LS3 took 8.9 Quarts of oil so I just poured in 9.0 Quarts. Now I read in the manual that the capacity is 8.0 Quarts. Did I cause a problem? Is it ok with a whole extra quart in there?

Banshee · 07-06-2009, 09:34 PM

To be safe...and to keep you from worrying, drain the quart. Doubt it will do anything other than rob your engine of HP while getting sucked onto the crank over 4k rpms.

jwlflyer · 07-07-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

$80? What brand of oil you using? I can get it done for $40-$50 depending on if I need to buy an oil filter.

Personally I'm not worried about the cost. Synthetic gets more mileage per quart then dino and with such a large capacity, you should be able to get 12-15k between oil changes easy.

You must not like your car very much to only change the oil every 12k miles! I don't care what kind of oil you use, I change it every 3k. Oil is cheap!

Cmurf_SS · 08-18-2009, 07:35 PM

Drove the hell out of it for 2k miles before 1st oil change... think I hurt anything? Runs stronger EVERY time i crank it

BlackSunsine · 08-25-2009, 08:29 PM

Hell, I will have over 1500 miles on mine before OC #1!

I will do my own
I will get a quality filter
I will get quality oil
and I will do it when i think about it.
Figure 3-4 K for the first 15k miles, then drop it to 5k between.

Hell, my odometer on my 67 reads 99,462 Miles, on the second round.
and the odometer on my 01 Tahoe reads 208,500+

2010SSRSM6 · 08-28-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blindingillusion

This is horrible of me, but I run synthetic in my cobalt and I only change the oil when the car tells me to. I changed it every 3-5K at first, but with my new job I decided to let it go one time (which I am currently still doing) and see how long the car recommends between changes.

I must say though, when it comes to my 'maro then I will be changing the oil more frequently, and with better quality then I have before. I hear royal purple is good, and good things about mobil1.

I had a 2007 G5 GT that went over 100K miles (traded it in on my Camaro) and the oil was changed when the monitor said to. Usually got better than 13K miles between oil changes, and it was NOT synthetic oil. G5 GT oil monitor recommended not using synthetic in the car.

07-06-2009, 09:34 PM	#38
Banshee Institutionally Insane Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 2,115 View My Garage	To be safe...and to keep you from worrying, drain the quart. Doubt it will do anything other than rob your engine of HP while getting sucked onto the crank over 4k rpms. __________________ It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?

08-18-2009, 07:35 PM	#40
Cmurf_SS "SLOMARO" Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temple, GA Posts: 246 View My Garage	Drove the hell out of it for 2k miles before 1st oil change... think I hurt anything? Runs stronger EVERY time i crank it __________________ Dyno'd before VARARAM TUNE unit at 390hp

08-25-2009, 08:29 PM	#41
BlackSunsine Drives: 1967 Custom Camaro Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 5280 Posts: 296 View My Garage	Hell, I will have over 1500 miles on mine before OC #1! I will do my own I will get a quality filter I will get quality oil and I will do it when i think about it. Figure 3-4 K for the first 15k miles, then drop it to 5k between. Hell, my odometer on my 67 reads 99,462 Miles, on the second round. and the odometer on my 01 Tahoe reads 208,500+ __________________ Current Cars - 1967 Chevrolet Camaro (1983) 2004 Harley Davidson Road King(2004) Ex 2001 Chevrolet Tahoe (2007) (Totaled Labor Day) 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe (Thursday) 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS(2009) Colorado Fall - Beautiful - Cool - Snow is soon!!!

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