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bluecam805 · 08-16-2013, 12:36 PM

Has anyone upgraded there 18 steelies to 20s and had all the traction control lights come on??
I dont know how to get rid of em
I have larger tires in the back than the front

275 45 20
245 40 20

Thanks

CamaroGang_BANGBANG · 08-16-2013, 01:41 PM

I have 22s on mines. The only thing I had to buy was those tire pressure sensors. Dont kno wat the traction thing about

mydreamcar · 08-16-2013, 01:43 PM

U proably need to reset your tmps, not sure why traction control light would come on, when I had my v6 I upgraded to the ss tires and all I did was the relearn function in the dic

bluecam805 · 08-16-2013, 01:49 PM

How do i reset the tmps? Is it the owners manuel? Im looking into that right now
The dealer said the computer thinks i have 18s and so i would need to re caliberate the wheels sensors. The tire shop said geting the tires the same size will fix it
Idk whos right

mydreamcar · 08-16-2013, 01:55 PM

In the dic when you get to the tmps for each tire hit relearn, You then will be prompted to let air out of each tire so the the tmps picks up the new tires, I think. It's been a while, lost my manual in hurricane sandy but I think that's the way to do it,

bluecam805 · 08-16-2013, 04:15 PM

I tried that thru the DIC and it would clear then the lights would come on again
But i switchd the front tires to have them all even and it looks so far good
Lights are off

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 08-16-2013, 05:21 PM

If the outside diameter of the tires is off, there will be lights.

And the TPMS relearn procedure for the newer cars has to be done with a scan tool, as the let-air-out-thing doesn't work on a '12+.

John B.

skibik · 08-16-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

If the outside diameter of the tires is off, there will be lights.

And the TPMS relearn procedure for the newer cars has to be done with a scan tool, as the let-air-out-thing doesn't work on a '12+.

John B.

Old procedure works on my 2012 1LT even though the books says to take it to a dealer. I have rotated once and rather then drive 40 to 50 miles to a dealer I tried it the way it is done on the older models. It works the same way. It took me a few tries until I found out I wasn't waiting long enough after letting air out of each tire. Start the learn procedure by hold in the set button when on the tire monitoring screen. The park light blinks to to tell you where to start, left front I believe. Let out 10 seconds of air and wait, I repeat wait, until the horn sounds and the next park light blinks. Repeat on the other corners until finished and a beep then a double beep (I think) sounds, refill all tires and you are done. I think I even started at close to 40 PSI in all tires. Or take it to a dealer and pay them to reset.

Dean.

Jason@JacFab · 08-16-2013, 10:48 PM

Its your tires, they are too different size wise. One is 29.7 inches, the other is 27.7 inches tall. I don't know how close they need to be exactly, but I want to say the tires need to be within 1/2" of each other in height. Maybe up to 3/4"?

The current tires I'm running are 27" tall, and I got a flat last week so I'm running the spare tire on the drivers rear, the spare tire is 26.5" tall... I am not having any problems with the stabilitrak or abs lights coming on etc. (.5" difference)

If I run the factory LS steel wheels/oem tires on the front which are 28.6" tall, and my current 27" tall on the rears (1.6" difference), I do get stabilitrack and abs lights.

Best go tire shopping if you want the lights to stay off and more importantly, be safe.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 08-17-2013, 11:04 AM

Skibik, thanks for the heads up. I have Discount Tire do my rotations, since they rebalance them at the same time and all for free, so they use a scan tool and I get to read Road and Track while I wait.

RacnJsn, thanks for seconding what I thought I remembered from another thread about height differentials playing havoc with the systems.

John B.

gutterball · 08-19-2013, 08:19 AM

I agree with racnjsn, Tires are diff. dia. so front and rear are reading diff. speeds. Thats probably why the traction control light comes on. I assume the 45/40 is the front tire?? why did you pick 40's for the front?? I would have picked the same as the rear 45/45

mydreamcar · 08-19-2013, 12:14 PM

that is wierd, I had no issues going from my 18' t0 stock ss 20's when I had my v6. The tmps picked up the tires and the speedo was fine. I even had vince at trifecta check it and he said it did not need to be changed,. In any case at least it worked out for you

JR 1 · 08-19-2013, 12:37 PM

I agree with what a few others have said. It's not the overall size of the tires that is the problem, it's that you have different diameter tires front to back. They are rotating at different speeds and the car is probably interpreting this as wheel slip. There may not be anything you can do other than get larger front tires to match the back.

christianmotox · 08-19-2013, 12:46 PM

youre 4 tires need to be of the same Diameter if you want to get rid of the lights.

08-16-2013, 12:36 PM	#1
bluecam805 Team LFX Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 328	LS rims upgrade to 20s problem Has anyone upgraded there 18 steelies to 20s and had all the traction control lights come on?? I dont know how to get rid of em I have larger tires in the back than the front 275 45 20 245 40 20 Thanks __________________ 2.5" cat- back Magnaflow exhaust w. resonated x pipe, Roto Fab CAI .. .. JL sound system, Halo fog lights, Escort radar, window tint + turn signals

08-16-2013, 01:49 PM	#4
bluecam805 Team LFX Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 328	How do i reset the tmps? Is it the owners manuel? Im looking into that right now The dealer said the computer thinks i have 18s and so i would need to re caliberate the wheels sensors. The tire shop said geting the tires the same size will fix it Idk whos right __________________ 2.5" cat- back Magnaflow exhaust w. resonated x pipe, Roto Fab CAI .. .. JL sound system, Halo fog lights, Escort radar, window tint + turn signals

08-16-2013, 04:15 PM	#6
bluecam805 Team LFX Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 328	I tried that thru the DIC and it would clear then the lights would come on again But i switchd the front tires to have them all even and it looks so far good Lights are off __________________ 2.5" cat- back Magnaflow exhaust w. resonated x pipe, Roto Fab CAI .. .. JL sound system, Halo fog lights, Escort radar, window tint + turn signals

08-16-2013, 05:21 PM	#7
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	If the outside diameter of the tires is off, there will be lights. And the TPMS relearn procedure for the newer cars has to be done with a scan tool, as the let-air-out-thing doesn't work on a '12+. John B. __________________ 12 LS M6, IPF S/C, ASA GT-5 wheels, VMax PTB 1995 Mitsubishi Montero SR 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo Project 1986 Mitsubishi Montero 2.4l FI Transplant

08-16-2013, 10:48 PM	#9
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Its your tires, they are too different size wise. One is 29.7 inches, the other is 27.7 inches tall. I don't know how close they need to be exactly, but I want to say the tires need to be within 1/2" of each other in height. Maybe up to 3/4"? The current tires I'm running are 27" tall, and I got a flat last week so I'm running the spare tire on the drivers rear, the spare tire is 26.5" tall... I am not having any problems with the stabilitrak or abs lights coming on etc. (.5" difference) If I run the factory LS steel wheels/oem tires on the front which are 28.6" tall, and my current 27" tall on the rears (1.6" difference), I do get stabilitrack and abs lights. Best go tire shopping if you want the lights to stay off and more importantly, be safe. Last edited by Jason@JacFab; 08-16-2013 at 11:48 PM.

08-16-2013, 01:41 PM	#2
CamaroGang_BANGBANG Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 113	I have 22s on mines. The only thing I had to buy was those tire pressure sensors. Dont kno wat the traction thing about

08-16-2013, 01:43 PM	#3
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	U proably need to reset your tmps, not sure why traction control light would come on, when I had my v6 I upgraded to the ss tires and all I did was the relearn function in the dic

08-16-2013, 01:55 PM	#5
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	In the dic when you get to the tmps for each tire hit relearn, You then will be prompted to let air out of each tire so the the tmps picks up the new tires, I think. It's been a while, lost my manual in hurricane sandy but I think that's the way to do it,

08-17-2013, 11:04 AM	#10
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Skibik, thanks for the heads up. I have Discount Tire do my rotations, since they rebalance them at the same time and all for free, so they use a scan tool and I get to read Road and Track while I wait. RacnJsn, thanks for seconding what I thought I remembered from another thread about height differentials playing havoc with the systems. John B. __________________ 12 LS M6, IPF S/C, ASA GT-5 wheels, VMax PTB 1995 Mitsubishi Montero SR 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo Project 1986 Mitsubishi Montero 2.4l FI Transplant

08-19-2013, 08:19 AM	#11
gutterball Drives: 2014 1LS M6 Supercharged Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New Britain, Ct Posts: 937 View My Garage	I agree with racnjsn, Tires are diff. dia. so front and rear are reading diff. speeds. Thats probably why the traction control light comes on. I assume the 45/40 is the front tire?? why did you pick 40's for the front?? I would have picked the same as the rear 45/45

08-19-2013, 12:14 PM	#12
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	that is wierd, I had no issues going from my 18' t0 stock ss 20's when I had my v6. The tmps picked up the tires and the speedo was fine. I even had vince at trifecta check it and he said it did not need to be changed,. In any case at least it worked out for you

08-19-2013, 12:37 PM	#13
JR 1 Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lake Orion, MI Posts: 1,247	I agree with what a few others have said. It's not the overall size of the tires that is the problem, it's that you have different diameter tires front to back. They are rotating at different speeds and the car is probably interpreting this as wheel slip. There may not be anything you can do other than get larger front tires to match the back.

08-19-2013, 12:46 PM	#14
christianmotox Drives: ( . )( . ) Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,827	youre 4 tires need to be of the same Diameter if you want to get rid of the lights. __________________