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Stupid is as stupid does I know, and this one is on me 100%. Perhaps it will grow on me after break-in when I get to take it up between 4,000 and 6,000 revs, but somehow I doubt it. When I see them at the dealership tomorrow I'll let them know too. (Yeah, then they'll offer me a trade on that down to my old SS!). |
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06-23-2013, 07:38 PM | #75 | |
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To the OP. I think it's great that you found out that buying the higher priced ZL1 didn't suit your needs and are happy with what you have. The results would have been different if your SS was stock, but your financially ahead by keeping your car. Many of the features and handling characteristics of the ZL1 are great on the street, but are better suited to road racing. The best thing about the ZL1 IMO is that there are few things that need upgrading to make it a fun car. I realized that it would have cost me much more to make an SS into what I wanted. I would have never been happy with the performance of a stock SS.
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06-23-2013, 07:46 PM | #78 | |
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I just joined the Camaro club here in Tucson, and so far from the hoods that I have seen up at our meets I think I'm the only guy who DOESN'T have a cai! Some have the Roto Fabs, some have Airaid and others I can't tell. There seems to be a gamut of different manufacturers out there. The thing I kept hearing was quicker response time. Does adding a cai affect your warranty at all? Sorry OP....didn't mean to momentarily high jack your thread! Last edited by mrmertz; 06-23-2013 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Added info |
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06-23-2013, 07:54 PM | #79 |
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Ok. I'll pour my gas on the fire. The ZL1, to me, is just the most pointless car since the Malibu Maxx. It's a track car with four seats. Here, in Texas, these things go for around 70 grand. That's absolutely overpriced. For ten thousand more, you can get a GTR. The GTR has reigned the "4 seater" track world since it came out. Also, you want to talk power? A few grand can have you pushing 700 easy. All wheel drive to put it down.
On to my personal view. I have an SS because there was no ZL1 available. The SS was in my price range. I get the same engine, and MY option of what to do with it. Personally, Turbonetics sounds good. 640hp cranking out of the same motor as a ZL1 is just enough to make a ZL1 cry. Oh, and it's only 7,000 to do it since it fits....on a stock SS platform. This, and while I was out looking, I saw that a grand sport is the same price as a ZL1 since the ZL1 has no incentives. The grand sport is....well...lets just say it is a ZL1 on slim fast. It weighs nothing. The suspension....that thing was born for track racing. Power, yeah. Doesn't throw you back, but neither will that ZL1. Looks? Heh. Seen more *** get pulled in grand sports than you can even imagine. Heck, base vettes even have that same aura. I'm YET to see someone in a ZL1 with a good looking woman. They are always alone. No argument made for the ZL1 will surpass the grand sport. If you need four seats, why do you want a track car? If you want a track car, why are you buying the slower, more expensive, heavier, gas guzzling, non hard top option having vehicle? If you are talking track car, we are talking GTR. On a GM site, we are talking vette. On a Ford site, we are talking Boss 302. On a Dodge site, we are talking viper. It's just how it works. What the ZL1 is is a car that Chevy made to appease a rich camaro enthusiast who wants the "best" camaro to bring back "the old day feeling." Corvette. It's what's for dinner. Would I buy a ZL1? No. Never. Haven't even thought about it. 70 grand can get me a 2008 viper coupe with 6k miles on the clock. A GTR with 2k on the clock. Looking at autotrader as we speak. No thanks. I don't think of vipers, 911s, Ford GTs, GTRs and....ZL1s.....see it just doesn't belong. If you bought one, you are the one who can not justify it. GT500s each your lunch in the straight. For less money. Bosses eat you up in the corners. For half the money. The only thing you can beat on track day, is someone there with an SS without a 1LE package.....and you better hope it isn't a 1LE. Then your biggest worry will be where the 20 grand they saved went to. ZL1. Sorry. No go. Since military was spoken, I appreciate all of your services, even if you went in for 30 minutes to each lunch. It gives people like me the right to say things like this. If this is too much of an opinion, and you are offended, then sorry. I won't change my opinion (supported by facts) just because you are. I have the right to it, as these men and women have fought to protect. At the end of the day, a Hummer is slow and overpriced. If you want to drive it, it is yours. Look at me! I'm a guy driving a SS with green stripes. You think I care when someone says "Looks like someone barfed on your car." Nope. Chug along. Drive what you want. Just had to add this in there to give the SS and V6 owners a sword to fight with.
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At an ADM of $70k, I agree with most of your points, but at MSRP of less than $60k with some options, it's a good buy. The precious GTR is closer to $100k new, so it's not a fair comparison.
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06-23-2013, 08:21 PM | #81 |
Well I paid $53, 500 and walked my friends 04 Gallardoand that is $90k so allyou can say whatever you want because my wife's 11' SS is very nice (stock) but what a difference to the ZL1. Even my wife in the passenger seat says she noticed a huge difference fr m mine to hers. I even love driving my 69' 383 500hp for its a different animal. Now I did drive a auto ZL1 and it to us felt not as good.
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06-23-2013, 08:32 PM | #82 |
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This thread has spiralled out of control.
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06-23-2013, 08:47 PM | #83 |
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Couldn't have said it better myself....
Too much butt hurt and elitist attitude... Closed...
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