Upgrading Heat Exchanger on HeartBeat?

[Nighthawk89]

What kind of results am I going to see out of this upgrade? Has anyone gone further into the cooling ability on these superchargers? If so, what has been your results?

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk89

What kind of results am I going to see out of this upgrade? Has anyone gone further into the cooling ability on these superchargers? If so, what has been your results?

Don't think you can improve on the system

I recently discovered the sensors they are using need a different calibration to read correctly.

With the Gen5 camaro IAT cal the heartbeat sensor reads pretty high compared to actual.

You may be chasing a ghost.

Ted.

[Nighthawk89]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Don't think you can improve on the system

I recently discovered the sensors they are using need a different calibration to read correctly.

With the Gen5 camaro IAT cal the heartbeat sensor reads pretty high compared to actual.

You may be chasing a ghost.

Ted.

Did not know that. Great info!

[alssiri]

I have SuperChiller & Ron Davis H/E with my HeartBeat & as Ted said the IAT sensor needs calibration cause it is reading hight temps.
I emailed Magnacharger with no response yet maybe they are busy with Sema .

Ahmad

[swiftkart]

So the sensor is different than what is used for the older Maggie?

[Jeff_SS]

AFCO heat exchanger FTW

[Reelgrinder]

Not the place for it but I'm going to do a twin turbo got a new AFCO in box that I never installed this year for my eforce. Ill let it go for 500 plus ship

[Jeff_SS]

Originally Posted by Reelgrinder

Not the place for it but I'm going to do a twin turbo got a new AFCO in box that I never installed this year for my eforce. Ill let it go for 500 plus ship

If I wasn't just about to spend my money on a squash fuel system, I would totally snag this deal lol
Good luck on the sale, I'm sure it'll be gone extremely soon

[GenF-GTS]

Below ambient air temps with an interchiller = more HP as you are gaining back lost ignition timing and have denser air.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by GenF-GTS

Below ambient air temps with an interchiller = more HP as you are gaining back lost ignition timing and have denser air.

Agreed but a moot point if the IAT sensor reads wrong.

The Heartbeat has a very efficient intercooling system.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Chiller is the way to go If you can honestly show data that you do not lose any cooling capability for the occupants. GM did a lot of stuff right but the AC in my camaro is the best system i have ever owned. In Houston on 100 degree day w 80% humidity I rarely need but 1 click of fan on the knob and I don't even need max ac. Im a big guy w a crappy heat soak eforce and my ac works so freakin well I dont think I'd chance it!

Another alternative would be the Dual Pass and to relocate the battery from the center of the wheel well to the edge.. very easy. have someone make a reservoir with some mini exchangers or trans/oil coolers mounted inside the box... Your system can pass through with out damage.. running bagged ice and contaminating the coolers in the blower from minerals in the water. will make your intercooler less efficient when not running bagged ice plus the headache of draining and cleaning the system. This would be a closed system w no maintenance all you have to do is dump ice on top of the fins (mini exchanger) and you could even leave the drain plug slight open (except at track) and be very hassle free. dry ice would be so much better and if vented properly it would really be awesome probably better than the chiller.. its the same principal there AC exchanger is cooling water from your blowers system and never comes in contact or contaminates your system

[GenF-GTS]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Agreed but a moot point if the IAT sensor reads wrong.

The Heartbeat has a very efficient intercooling system.

Yes we have heard about the sensor here too, luckily some of the blowers are being installed in LSA engines so they are swapping the temp sensor over.

We have a heartbeat lined up for a few weeks from now to put a chiller on so it should be very interesting to see what temps it gets.

Currently we have several customers reporting IAT2 of 8c (46.4f) on a 35c (95f) day with the LSA blower. At peak rpm at 130mph they are gaining roughly 8-9 degrees of ignition timing....thats about 40-50hp

[GenF-GTS]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Chiller is the way to go If you can honestly show data that you do not lose any cooling capability for the occupants. GM did a lot of stuff right but the AC in my camaro is the best system i have ever owned. In Houston on 100 degree day w 80% humidity I rarely need but 1 click of fan on the knob and I don't even need max ac. Im a big guy w a crappy heat soak eforce and my ac works so freakin well I dont think I'd chance it!

Another alternative would be the Dual Pass and to relocate the battery from the center of the wheel well to the edge.. very easy. have someone make a reservoir with some mini exchangers or trans/oil coolers mounted inside the box... Your system can pass through with out damage.. running bagged ice and contaminating the coolers in the blower from minerals in the water. will make your intercooler less efficient when not running bagged ice plus the headache of draining and cleaning the system. This would be a closed system w no maintenance all you have to do is dump ice on top of the fins (mini exchanger) and you could even leave the drain plug slight open (except at track) and be very hassle free. dry ice would be so much better and if vented properly it would really be awesome probably better than the chiller.. its the same principal there AC exchanger is cooling water from your blowers system and never comes in contact or contaminates your system

We have spent probably $2000-$2500 gassing and de-gassing my car to find what is absolute perfection with the cabin AC. We found what was too little what was too much and everything in between....to say it works well is an understatement we have perfected it.

The cabin AC if anything is now colder than stock, recently on a harrop 2300 blower which is really bad for heat issues just cruising along the highway on a 25c (77f) days it gets 50-60c (122-140f) IAT's It's IAT's are now in the low 20's (35f) on a 28c (82.4f) day and the cabin AC is unaffected. You can read the owners review here: http://www.hsvforum.com.au/showthread.php?15040-Forced-Induction-Interchiller-1-000m-Sprint-Temora (and the owner has not yet installed the bypass valve, so these temps should drop even more)

With the IAT's in the 20s (35f) the TX valve on the chiller will be more open than compared to LSA blowers which get lower temps but as we have absolutely nailed our system gassing it doesn't have any effect on the cabin.

As said if anything the cabin AC is now colder than standard and there is no messy ice setups, ice also melts it will not and cannot get as cold as the AC system, as soon as your hot source is applied it starts to melt and losing its coldness. We have seen in winter time my IAT2 go down to -4c (24.8f) at this IAT2 the intercooler fluid is at -11c (12.2f) it has also stayed between -3 and -4c for a good 30-45min while driving.

[BlownChevy]

Get yourself a STOCK GM LSA IAT sensor.....Trust me.